[Dixielandjazz] Kelly and the "L" and music copyrights

[Al Levy]

Just for the record: When I ask these questions they are mostly 
rhetorical and
"teasers" to get people writing. I assume we all have Google and access 
to Wikipedia.

My apologies to Phil, but, In a rage I created a web page with 100 songs 
most, close to 100 years old.
They came from a Hal Leonard Book called "Nostalgia" or something like 
that. A picture of the book is on my web site. The Hal Leonard Corp. 
(probably Sony) changed a few notes, added chord symbols and copyrighted 
all the songs a few years ago. Hmph!
I will explain my anger at a later time.

I decided to search various libraries on line, download the pdf files 
and create the songs in Finale with
the original credits including copyright notices or what ever was 
notated on the sheet. On occasion I re-created the back covers and 
sometimes the ads.

RE:Kelly. There are two characters and each has lines. Timothy Kelly, 
the store owner and Pat Clancy
the sign painter. Maybe I read the lyric as Timothy saying "If I agree 
to knock the "L" out of Kelly
spell my name (Kely) .. in true Irish tradition we will remain good 
friends.

BTW: Who put the overalls in ..........
I know who!

I have decided that since the verse, in many of the old songs have two 
sets of lyrics, it is assumed you would go back to the verse or the vamp 
if there was one. Repeat marks at the chorus probably indicate repeat 
this also even though it has one line of lyric.

Copyrights:
In the 50's and later I had a contact for buying fake books.
History - In he 40's I had a thirty page  5 x 8 size, hand written book 
with a standard Tune on each side/
I bought that for $5.00 Later, in the 50's, I had a "wholesale" contact 
for buy 100 page Loose Leaf
8 1/2 x 11 books with two or three songs on a page. These were great for 
gigs.
Before Fake Books there were "Tunedex" cards. Index cards with tunes 
printed on them, the latest show tunes, pop hits etc. Copyright notices 
were on all cards and royalties were paid. Some person or persons who 
knew "offset printing" took photos of the cards (3 at a time) removing 
all copyright notices and sometimes half the lyrics or credits. Thus 
became the first printed 100 page "Fake Book". The music stores sold the 
under the counter (in plain brown bags) for $35.00 or more. I was 
selling them to the stores and to musicians at the Wednesday meeting of 
Local 802 for $2.00.

I knew most of the publishers and when I mentioned the"illegal" book to 
them they immediately bought one to see if their songs were in it. If 
so, they smiled! If not, I was handed a bunch of "professional
copies to give to the printers

Why? you ask. Because it was professional musicians who bought the books 
to play the songs at gigs. A.S.C.A.P. collected the royalties if your 
song was played in public. The people at the printing company (I still 
don't know who they were) proceeded to cut up the song sheets
Only the vocal with chord symbols. This went on for another nine volumes.
Never a law suit from anyone.

Next post - Morey Amsterdam,  the judge, the lawyer and "Rum And Coca Cola"
more copyright stuff: "Now Is The Time", "Ornithology" "Lullaby Of Birdland"
"Moody's Mood For Love"

In the words of Rod Serling "For your approval" I have attached my copy 
of Kelly. Decide for yourself.
Would you believe: The line was only spoken in three shows?



On 4/18/2020 5:04 PM, Phil Wilking wrote:
> Sure, and if you read the words to the first verse, you’ll find it is 
> indeed the painter who is singing, and not Kelly himself.
> Phil Wilking
> *From:* Al Levy
> It was also my way of saying to the list "If you want a copy of any of 
> these songs - It will be my pleasure to send them free pf charge!" 
> Just identify yourself with the word "OKUM".
>
> as for:"If I Knock The 'L' Out Of Kelly"
>
> A sign painter messed up a sign for Kelly's store and is afraid to 
> charge for his work, because Kelly may punch him
>
> GOTCHA! close, but no cigar. Hint: Kelly is singing the song.
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