[Dixielandjazz] Joe Turner (was two comments -- and swing)

Marek Boym marekboym at gmail.com
Tue Jun 20 15:15:32 EDT 2017


Hello Robert,
The pianist Joe Turner recorded very little in the US. He spent most of his
life and cut most of his records in Europe; hence, those records  were not
widely distributed in the States.  Classic Jazz issued one (perhaps more),
but it was originally made for the French Black&Blue label.
Cheers

On 20 June 2017 at 20:35, ROBERT R. CALDER <serapion at btinternet.com> wrote:

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> I refer to the English saxophonist/ writer etc. Benny Green's citation of
> the piano-playing Joe Turner
> (whom one unfortunate on Amazon thought had recorded little. I commented
> otherwise!)
> And Joe was on a TV show with Oscar Peterson (which I have never seen)
> and he said that when he was a lot younger, people had a lot more fun with
> music.
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> Dammit if Buck Clayton could swing and sound happy enough on a gig I saw
> on TV, which I have on a hissy audio tape, and in the second half of the
> concert Humphrey Lyttelton had to take over (Buck was in physical pain with
> lip trouble, and doubtless his soul hurt too!) what is amiss with a smile?
> I am not talking about for instance a Clark Terry session of supposedly
> "happy jazz", which was plain banal, oppressively lightweight.
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> I remember the boogalooing youngsters of a New Orleans marching band. They
> swung. And so did the German folks playing the same stuff in the same way
> when I heard them in the street in Konstanz in Germany (about a block away
> from where I heard a strolling Italian clarinetist in summer playing Bechet
> tunes unaccompanied. What ambitions have musicians?
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> Probably part of the US problem is a tendency to classify music not in
> musical terms but according to a crude and uninformed approximation to
> chronology. The same crap as induced some young ignoramus to conclude that
> since Charlie Parker was a player his father admired, Parker must have been
> "a Dixieland saxophone player".
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> But there's no obligation to imitate Parker all the time, Sonny Stitt
> swung more, and perhaps now rather than the stiltedness of people trying to
> play jazz long, long ago, without quite the grasp required by an idiom new
> to them, and maybe most folks, younger musicians might be strung up on
> noise and strident intensity.
>
> have fun!
>
> Robert R. Calder
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