[Dixielandjazz] FW: Summary-- first jazz recording and speculation of origin of word jass

[Tony Orr]

The ODJB is classified as a jazz band but they were a "cover" band which
made a success out of presenting music played in New Orleans earlier by
other musicians who were not recorded. Has anybody yet found the rumoured
cylinder by Buddy Bolden? I'd like to nominate Kid Ory's Sunshine Orchestra
with Mutt Carey who recorded in Las Angeles in 1922. "Ory's Creole
Trombone" for instance.

Tony Orr
Melbourne


On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Stan Brager <stanbrager at gmail.com> wrote:

> We’ve once more . opened this can of worms regarding the “first” jazz
> recording. While there is consensus in general that the “Livery Stable
> Blues” and “Dixieland One-Step” recordings are candidates for the “first”
> honor, both The Jazz Discography and Brian Rust’s Jazz Records list
> recordings made as early as 1897. Not having heard these very early
> recordings but having heard more contemporary renditions of some of these
> early tunes, I can certainly hear where some elements of jazz music came
> from.
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> There are some contemporary recordings of some of the older recordings
> such as Handy’s 1912 “Jogo Blues” and Luckyth Roberts 1913 “Junk Man Rag”
> which generally have a jazz flavor.
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> Stan
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> Stan Brager
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> *From:* Norman Vickers [mailto:nvickers1 at cox.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 09, 2017 8:28 AM
> *To:* Norman Vickers <nvickers1 at cox.net>
> *Subject:* Summary-- first jazz recording and speculation of origin of
> word jass
>
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> To: Musicians and Jazzfans list--& DJML
>
> From:  Norman Vickers—Jazz Pensacola
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> Here’s link from New Orleans—centennial of first jass 78rpm
> recording—Livery Stable Blues/ Dixieland One-Step.
>
> It’s a summary  appropriate for jazz novices.  As with any summary, some
> details must be omitted.  Likely “old-jazz-heads” will have details to fill
> in or critique.
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>
> Photo of trumpeter Jimmy LaRocca, son of Nick LaRocca a member of the
> original recording group, Original Dixieland Jass Band,  is shown.  We had
> Jimmy and his band for a Pensacola JazzFest in the 1990s  Although Jimmy
> has a website, haven’t heard much from or about him in recent years.
> Likely some readers can fill us in on the details.
>
>
>
> I think writers were being  “politically correct” when they skirted the
> issue of original definition of “jass” and it’s change to “jazz.”
>
> Personally, I liked Eubie Blake’s  expression, “ I never used the word
> jazz, I always called it ragtime!”  Also loved their quote from Etude
> Magazine in the 1920s denigrating jazz.
>
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> At any rate, I send this out for your reading and comment.  Thanks to
>  Pensacola super-jazzfan Mike Lynch for alerting me to this.
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> http://www.nola.com/300/2017/07/first_jazz_recording_livery_st.html
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> On another New Orleans issue, I have attended all the Satchmo Summerfests
> since the beginning in 2001 ( Armstrong’s actual centennial) except the
> last couple.  Regret that circumstance aren’t favorable for me again this
> year.  The program of talks looks wonderful, as usual.  See Satchmo
> Summerfest website for details.  Comes up first weekend in August,
> coinciding with Satchmo’s actual birth date ( August 4, 1901).
>
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> F.Norman Vickers
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> nvickers1 at cox.net
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