<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The ODJB is classified as a jazz band but they were a "cover" band which made a success out of presenting music played in New Orleans earlier by other musicians who were not recorded. Has anybody yet found the rumoured cylinder by Buddy Bolden? I'd like to nominate Kid Ory's Sunshine Orchestra with Mutt Carey who recorded in Las Angeles in 1922. "Ory's Creole Trombone" for instance.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Tony Orr<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Melbourne<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Stan Brager <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stanbrager@gmail.com" target="_blank">stanbrager@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-4211045681651931083WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">We’ve once more . opened this can of worms regarding the “first” jazz recording. While there is consensus in general that the “Livery Stable Blues” and “Dixieland One-Step” recordings are candidates for the “first” honor, both The Jazz Discography and Brian Rust’s Jazz Records list recordings made as early as 1897. Not having heard these very early recordings but having heard more contemporary renditions of some of these early tunes, I can certainly hear where some elements of jazz music came from.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">There are some contemporary recordings of some of the older recordings such as Handy’s 1912 “Jogo Blues” and Luckyth Roberts 1913 “Junk Man Rag” which generally have a jazz flavor.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stan Brager<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-4211045681651931083__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Norman Vickers [mailto:<a href="mailto:nvickers1@cox.net" target="_blank">nvickers1@cox.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 09, 2017 8:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Norman Vickers <<a href="mailto:nvickers1@cox.net" target="_blank">nvickers1@cox.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Summary-- first jazz recording and speculation of origin of word jass<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">To: Musicians and Jazzfans list--& DJML<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">From: Norman Vickers—Jazz Pensacola<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here’s link from New Orleans—centennial of first jass 78rpm recording—Livery Stable Blues/ Dixieland One-Step.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It’s a summary appropriate for jazz novices. As with any summary, some details must be omitted. Likely “old-jazz-heads” will have details to fill in or critique.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Photo of trumpeter Jimmy LaRocca, son of Nick LaRocca a member of the original recording group, Original Dixieland Jass Band, is shown. We had Jimmy and his band for a Pensacola JazzFest in the 1990s Although Jimmy has a website, haven’t heard much from or about him in recent years. Likely some readers can fill us in on the details.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I think writers were being “politically correct” when they skirted the issue of original definition of “jass” and it’s change to “jazz.”<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I liked Eubie Blake’s expression, “ I never used the word jazz, I always called it ragtime!” Also loved their quote from Etude Magazine in the 1920s denigrating jazz.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">At any rate, I send this out for your reading and comment. Thanks to Pensacola super-jazzfan Mike Lynch for alerting me to this.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href="http://www.nola.com/300/2017/07/first_jazz_recording_livery_st.html" target="_blank">http://www.nola.com/300/2017/<wbr>07/first_jazz_recording_<wbr>livery_st.html</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On another New Orleans issue, I have attended all the Satchmo Summerfests since the beginning in 2001 ( Armstrong’s actual centennial) except the last couple. Regret that circumstance aren’t favorable for me again this year. The program of talks looks wonderful, as usual. See Satchmo Summerfest website for details. Comes up first weekend in August, coinciding with Satchmo’s actual birth date ( August 4, 1901).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">F.<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Norman</span> Vickers<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">5429 Dynasty Drive<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">Pensacola, FL 32504-8583<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Home <a href="tel:(850)%20484-9183" value="+18504849183" target="_blank">850-484-9183</a>; cell <a href="tel:(850)%20324-5022" value="+18503245022" target="_blank">850-324-5022</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jazz Society of Pensacola <a href="tel:(850)%20433-8382" value="+18504338382" target="_blank">850-433-8382</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.jazzpensacola.com/" target="_blank">www.jazzpensacola.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:nvickers1@cox.net" target="_blank">nvickers1@cox.net</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://jazzpensacola.com/vickers/" target="_blank">http://jazzpensacola.com/<wbr>vickers/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Member Jazz Journalists Association<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <wbr> <wbr> <wbr> <wbr> ---End--<span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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