[Dixielandjazz] Buddy Bolden, was Armstrong-Eldridge

[Charles Suhor]

Steve, your perspective is widely accepted (because it’s sound). It's not a matter of Jabbo or Red Allen “copying” Louis but being influenced in important, noticeable ways, yet but also being highly individualized. As As Marek says, they don’t “sound alike.” But certainly they derived much from Louis’ playing. Tracking this isn’t an exact science, like genealogy—a metaphor--but it’s a legitimate and interesting part of how we can think and talk about jazz. And yes, Bix was a true original with his own musical “progeny”—another metaphor. But as Wittgenstein said, all language is a matter of messing about creatively with metaphors. It’s a good game.

Charlie


> On Apr 13, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Steve Voce <stevevoce at virginmedia.com <mailto:stevevoce at virginmedia.com>> wrote:
> Is there anyone else who doesn't think that Henry Red and Jabbo derived their styles totally from Louis's? Bix and a few of his followers were the only contemporaries who didn't owe Louis a substantial debt. 
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> Steve V
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> 7 16:05, Marek Boym wrote:
>> The "genealogical" theory is nonsense.
>> I query bpth Jabbo Smith's and Red Allens being "Armstrong copyists."  Actually both sound quite different.
>> And how does Bix fit in?
>> Cheers
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