[Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown

Joe Carbery joe.carbery at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 22:15:46 PDT 2014


SGB doesn't have a bridge.  "Caravan" is AABA; SGB is ABAC.

Joe Carbery.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Hal Vickery <hvickery_80 at msn.com> wrote:

> And let's not forget valve trombonist Juan Tizol, who put it into a minor
> key (except for the bridge) and called it "Caravan."
> Hal Vickery
>
> > From: grahmartin at bigpond.com
> > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:00:07 +1000
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> > CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> >
> > Hi Charlie,
> >
> > Yes, according to the Lake CD label it is Brian Lemon (pno), Kenny
> Baldock
> > (bs) and Johnny Richardson (The British one, not the American) (dms). An
> > impeccable rhythm section and all of them were very active in my day in
> the
> > UK. The Sweet Georgia Brown track was recorded in Wallsend-on-Tyne in
> 1972,
> > after I had moved to Australia. Chis is of course one of my trombone
> heroes!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Grah
> >
> > Graham Martin
> > REDLAND BAY, Qld. AUSTRALIA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Suhor [mailto:csuhor at zebra.net]
> > Sent: Friday, 17 October 2014 11:48 AM
> > To: Graham Martin
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> >
> > Beautiful trombone, Do you know who's in the rhythm section?
> >
> > Charlie Suhor
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Graham Martin wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > I am really mystified about the, "There has to be at least one made
> > > between
> > > 1925 and 2014." Really, there are many great swinging versions even in
> > > my collection of recordings, although perhaps my "knockout rendition"
> > > criteria if different to yours. And maybe I am not even expecting
> > > that? However, I did say earlier on this topic that I thought SGB
> > > somehow suited the trombone for improvisation. As evidence may I
> > > tender a submission from George Chisholm, which is on YouTube:
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tF6WRKN1Lk
> > >
> > > And if you are still not convinced, try Kenny Ball, Bob Barnard (Party
> > > 2000), Acker Bilk, Eddie Condon, Bing Crosby, Wild Bill Davison,
> > > Firehouse Five, Stan Getz, Lawson Haggard, James Morrison, Anita O'Day
> > > (Newport Live), Kid Ory, Venuti & Lang, Ben Webster, Alex Welsh, Jimmy
> > > Noone, Red Nichols, Don Burrows or Nat Cole, all of which I have on my
> > > racks. Mind you, I do not think they are all on YouTube but I bet you
> > would have most of them anyway.
> > > Personally, I cannot stand the ads on YouTube these days and I prefer
> > > to listen to my own record collection. I am really glad I started a
> > > proper filing system many, many years back. But I know your filing is
> > better.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Grah
> > >
> > > Graham Martin
> > > REDLAND BAY, Qld. AUSTRALIA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Haesler [mailto:bhaesler at bigpond.net.au]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014 9:07 AM
> > > To: Dingo; Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > > Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> > >
> > > Dingo wrote [in part]:
> > >> ...one of my favourite versions can be found @:
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZNlfISNvU
> > >> It's fast and bubbling over with adrenalin but, to my ear, and from
> > >> memory
> > > of my LP copy, this presentation of it is too fast.
> > >
> > > Dear John,
> > > It does sound slightly 'speeded up' musically, as opposed to just
> > > being a fast tempo.
> > > So, following your reply to Bob Ringwald, I checked it out.
> > > The YouTube clip of the EP you provided is timed at 8m:34s.
> > >   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZNlfISNvU
> > > Googling the Mercury/Clef/Verve LP revealed that the original timing
> > > was 9.35.
> > > I then found this YouTube taken from the Verve LP:
> > >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMZMrUPM2M
> > > I put both of them in my iTunes Library and an ear comparison tells me
> > > that you are right.
> > > That EP is faster.
> > > Well remembered dear friend.
> > > However, so far as its jazz content is concerned, apart from the Mel
> > > Powell piano solo, this mouldy fig found the others too long and
> lacking
> > invention.
> > > Not to be outdone, I tried to recall a definitive hot jazz rendition
> > > of "Sweet Georgie Brown", starting with the first one in March 1925
> > > recorded by its co-composer Ben Bernie and his Roosevelt Orchestra.
> > > By dipping into the 1600 versions listed in Tom Lord's 'Jazz
> > > Discography' I came across good recordings by Cab Calloway, the
> > > California Ramblers, Isham Jones, Art Hodes and Harry James (all on
> > YouTube).
> > > But didn't come across a real knockout rendition.
> > > There has to be at least one made between 1925 and 2014.
> > > Very kind regards,
> > > Bill.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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