[Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown

Hal Vickery hvickery_80 at msn.com
Thu Oct 16 21:49:32 PDT 2014


And let's not forget valve trombonist Juan Tizol, who put it into a minor key (except for the bridge) and called it "Caravan."
Hal Vickery

> From: grahmartin at bigpond.com
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:00:07 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> 
> Hi Charlie,
> 
> Yes, according to the Lake CD label it is Brian Lemon (pno), Kenny Baldock
> (bs) and Johnny Richardson (The British one, not the American) (dms). An
> impeccable rhythm section and all of them were very active in my day in the
> UK. The Sweet Georgia Brown track was recorded in Wallsend-on-Tyne in 1972,
> after I had moved to Australia. Chis is of course one of my trombone heroes!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grah
> 
> Graham Martin
> REDLAND BAY, Qld. AUSTRALIA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Suhor [mailto:csuhor at zebra.net] 
> Sent: Friday, 17 October 2014 11:48 AM
> To: Graham Martin
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> 
> Beautiful trombone, Do you know who's in the rhythm section?
> 
> Charlie Suhor
> 
> On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Graham Martin wrote:
> 
> > Hi Bill,
> > 
> > I am really mystified about the, "There has to be at least one made 
> > between
> > 1925 and 2014." Really, there are many great swinging versions even in 
> > my collection of recordings, although perhaps my "knockout rendition" 
> > criteria if different to yours. And maybe I am not even expecting 
> > that? However, I did say earlier on this topic that I thought SGB 
> > somehow suited the trombone for improvisation. As evidence may I 
> > tender a submission from George Chisholm, which is on YouTube:
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tF6WRKN1Lk
> > 
> > And if you are still not convinced, try Kenny Ball, Bob Barnard (Party 
> > 2000), Acker Bilk, Eddie Condon, Bing Crosby, Wild Bill Davison, 
> > Firehouse Five, Stan Getz, Lawson Haggard, James Morrison, Anita O'Day 
> > (Newport Live), Kid Ory, Venuti & Lang, Ben Webster, Alex Welsh, Jimmy 
> > Noone, Red Nichols, Don Burrows or Nat Cole, all of which I have on my 
> > racks. Mind you, I do not think they are all on YouTube but I bet you
> would have most of them anyway.
> > Personally, I cannot stand the ads on YouTube these days and I prefer 
> > to listen to my own record collection. I am really glad I started a 
> > proper filing system many, many years back. But I know your filing is
> better.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Grah
> > 
> > Graham Martin
> > REDLAND BAY, Qld. AUSTRALIA
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Haesler [mailto:bhaesler at bigpond.net.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014 9:07 AM
> > To: Dingo; Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jazz Standards, Sweet Georgia Brown
> > 
> > Dingo wrote [in part]:
> >> ...one of my favourite versions can be found @:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZNlfISNvU
> >> It's fast and bubbling over with adrenalin but, to my ear, and from 
> >> memory
> > of my LP copy, this presentation of it is too fast.
> > 
> > Dear John,
> > It does sound slightly 'speeded up' musically, as opposed to just 
> > being a fast tempo.
> > So, following your reply to Bob Ringwald, I checked it out.
> > The YouTube clip of the EP you provided is timed at 8m:34s.
> >   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSZNlfISNvU
> > Googling the Mercury/Clef/Verve LP revealed that the original timing 
> > was 9.35.
> > I then found this YouTube taken from the Verve LP: 
> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMZMrUPM2M
> > I put both of them in my iTunes Library and an ear comparison tells me 
> > that you are right.
> > That EP is faster.
> > Well remembered dear friend.
> > However, so far as its jazz content is concerned, apart from the Mel 
> > Powell piano solo, this mouldy fig found the others too long and lacking
> invention.
> > Not to be outdone, I tried to recall a definitive hot jazz rendition 
> > of "Sweet Georgie Brown", starting with the first one in March 1925 
> > recorded by its co-composer Ben Bernie and his Roosevelt Orchestra.
> > By dipping into the 1600 versions listed in Tom Lord's 'Jazz 
> > Discography' I came across good recordings by Cab Calloway, the 
> > California Ramblers, Isham Jones, Art Hodes and Harry James (all on
> YouTube).
> > But didn't come across a real knockout rendition.
> > There has to be at least one made between 1925 and 2014.
> > Very kind regards,
> > Bill. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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