[Dixielandjazz] FW: Where are the young people?
Dixiejazzdata
dixiejazzdata at aol.com
Thu Oct 20 18:43:52 PDT 2011
Jim is dead on: They will walk across the street and stay and listen if it Swings and it is GOOD Music.
They will also buy Cds and sign up for mailing "Fan" lists and pay to come and see the Good Bands at other events.
They will also Hire Good Swingin' bands for their parties, most bands that play sit down OKOM concerts are pretty much Boring !!
Young people want to shake their asses just like most OKOM players parents and themselves did when they were young. Things do not change
no matter how much the wanna Be Concert OKOM acts want it to do or dreams of it happening.
The young go out to PARTY and if your band can't give it to them then you simply are not going to get hired by them, but give them what they want to hear and they will pay you ten times what your normal gigs pay you for a lot less work too.
Band leaders like Jim Kashishian, Steve Barbone, and former listmate Tom Wiggins, and a few others on the list have have freely given this kind of advice to the list for years, unfortunately most of it has been ignored. Perhaps if they charged everyone for it it would then seem useful and worth something. :))
Key words here: Swingin' and interesting to young people, try playing the same music with the fire and energy of a Rock band and watch what happens.
They will get up shake their asses and have a good time, tell all their friends how great it was and book you again for more money. That's how it works.
Cheers,
Bart,
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Walton Entertainment <larrys.bands at charter.net>
I agree Jim. I guess I really didn't mean that literally. There is a band
here in town that is playing to young people up to about thirty years old on
Washington Street. That's a newly reinvented district with a lot of bars
that cater to young adults. They play a mix and from the clip I saw are
very good.
Yes playing at a free event in the street will draw younger people but they
won't for the most part pay for it. That's where the rubber hits the road
in my opinion. I have played parties and receptions where the young people
had a great time but they didn't hire the band nor did they come on their
own but with parents or as relatives and friends. That's why I called them
a captive audience. I have played street concerts where there were younger
people and yes they would walk across the street to listen but they didn't
and wouldn't pay for it. These things were free and after five or ten
minutes they were down the street doing something else in contrast to a sit
down concert.
Look at that clip of Steve's. Those people came to hear a concert and
brought their lawn chairs. They wanted to be there. I'm sure they all
enjoyed it but there are only four kids and no twenty something's.
On the other hand the people that hire me are in their early thirties for
the most part and personally they aren't into OKOM that much. They hire me
because they know their guests like us and we put on a reasonably good show.
I booked a job on Easter Sunday and I know that there will be lots of pre
teen kids and I will play to and entertain them. It will be fun.
Yes I have heard many times that the audience is dying and there will be no
market in ten years. That's what they said about the big bands in the 50's
but there are more of them around now than there were in the 40's. I do
think we have to educate young people and at least try to seek them out
whenever possible. You never know who will be inspired to take up the baton
and carry it after we are gone or who the audience will be in thirty years.
For that I think we have to take our hats off to Steve because he is trying
to appeal to a wider audience as we all should.
Larry
StL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Kashishian" <jim at kashprod.com>
To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:00 AM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] FW: Where are the young people?
> Larry wrote:
>
>>I find a lot of young people to be very one sided in their likes and
> dislikes. Most wouldn't walk across the street to hear us but if they are
> a
> captive audience they do enjoy us.
>
> But, Larry, how about all those videos we've been seeing on djml with
> street
> bands playing & gobs of young people hanging around listening/dancing?
> They
> weren't shown being fenced in. They were enjoying the music.
>
> They WILL walk across the street if it is happy & swinging.
>
> Jim
>
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