[Dixielandjazz] Gold Digger Stomp

Stan Brager sbrager at verizon.net
Tue Mar 29 22:21:29 PDT 2011


Thanks, Bill. Your response answers many questions about this cut.

Stan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Haesler [mailto:bhaesler at bigpond.net.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:07 PM
> To: Stan Brager; Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: Gold Digger Stomp
> 
> Stan Brager wrote [in part]:
> > In a new, for me, CD called "New York Jazz in the Roaring Twenties,
> Volume
> > 1" there's a cut by Joe Herlihy & His Orchestra called "Gold Digger
> Stomp".... recorded on Aug 24, 1927. The personnel were drawn from the
> Gene Goldkette organisation..... trombonist Bill Rank who seems to
> start a solo when he shouldn't because he doesn't finish it. He solos
> nicely later on. My question: is this really an example of a solo in
> the wrong place or there another explanation?
> 
> Dear Stan,
> Sorry about the delay in replying. I'm still catching up.
> That Biograph CD (BCD 129) has been in my collection for ages and I had
> noticed that trombone intrusion at about 1.45.
> The source disc was an Edison test pressing.
> All was revealed in 2006 when Jazz Oracle (the wonderful Canadian
> reissue label) issued the three extant unissued 'takes' on CD - 'Edison
> Hot Dance Obscurities' (BDW 8052).
> The intrusion occurs at the same place (after the interlude) on both
> takes A and B, but it becomes a full, but tentative, solo on take - C.
> The second trombone solo occurs on all three takes.
> Bill Rank on a bad day?
> The other unissued tune on the first day was "Bye-Bye Pretty Baby". It
> was remade on 16 September 1927 and released on Edison 52098.
> Jazz Oracle has suggested Jerry Colona or Bill Rank as the trombonist
> involved on both dates but Joe Moore's excellent notes suggest that the
> regular Herlihy band only used three musicians from the Goldkette
> stable.
> My ears tell me that it is Bill Rank who solos on the remake of "Bye-
> Bye Pretty Baby", but is not him on the rejected side from 24 August
> 1927.
> Mr Moore also noted that "Gold Digger Stomp" was rejected because the
> Edison executives did not like it.
> It was replaced by "Rolling Around In Roses" at the remake session.
> Very kind regards,
> Bill.




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