[Dixielandjazz] Dixie vs. Trad

[Allan Brown]

I loved both those clips Rick - awesome sounds!

Best 

Allan

On 14 Jan 2011, at 23:04, Rick wrote:

> I can't /define/ dixie, and apparently no one else can!!
> 
> When I was at Little Rock High School -- 1952, we did a minstrel, and we did "Are you from Dixie"
> 
> Well... I'm from Dixie, and I can't define Dixieland.
> 
> I can define "Trad"
> 
> Lu Watters put a band together in SFO, to play "music"  It was patterned after the King Oliver Band.
> It was the start of the "Trad Jazz Revival"
> 
> I cut my eye teeth on The Fire House Five Plus Two, and then Turk Murphy.  We called it "Dixieland"
> but it wasn't.  Troublemakers said "you can't call it 'dixieland' because it's not from DIXIE"
> 
> Well that's right.  I can define Trad!   It has
> 
> Tuba
> Banjo
> The front three (trumpet, clarinet, trombone)
> TUBA.
> (why tuba??? because IT GOES WITH THE BANJO!!!)
> 
> Unfortunately, the early trad bands didn't pick up the Splash Cymbal, which was a 20's staple.
> 
> So, the best trad bands now are not even in the US!!
> 
> Sharkey -- from the 70's.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mx9eyBJmBs
> 
> La Porteno -- from the present.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9CJVGxwnLI&feature=related
> 
> Except for, of course,
> Vince Giordano, who's Nighthawks obviously capture that Coon-Sander's element from the 20's.
> 
> Vince was the bass coach at the Adult Trad Jazz Camp I went to in San Diego, but I really didn't get to know him!!
> 
> Anyway... historically... when the Firehouse Five plus 2 started playing, people called it Dixieland.
> 
> "It's not Dixieland" -- the purists screamed -- it's from <gasp> California.   Yes.. and so was Turk Murphy.
> 
> And Bob Schultz.   And we know -- it's not Dixie -- it's TRAD!!
> 
> So.. anyway... I can't define "dixie" but I sure can define TRAD.  And that's what I want to play
> 
> Rick Jolley, banjo
> The Colorado Nighthawks
> Colorado Springs, CO
> 
> 
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