[Dixielandjazz] Dixie vs. Trad

[Marek Boym]

A lovely band, but hardly what you've made us to expect.
However, the "related videos" include later development of the band,
when it became "Charquet & Co," with the tuba-banjo rhythm section.
An even later development is "Le Petit Jazzband de Mr. Morel," which
has the anticipated tuba and banjo, and one of the best contemporary
clarinet players, Alain Marquet.
Likewise, watch the one by Miss Lulu White Reed Hot Creole Jazz Band,
which also has the Lu Watters rhytm section, i.e. - banjo and tuba.

On 15 January 2011 01:04, Rick <rickz at usermail.com> wrote:
> I can't /define/ dixie, and apparently no one else can!!
>
> When I was at Little Rock High School -- 1952, we did a minstrel, and we did
> "Are you from Dixie"
>
> Well... I'm from Dixie, and I can't define Dixieland.
>
> I can define "Trad"
>
> Lu Watters put a band together in SFO, to play "music"  It was patterned
> after the King Oliver Band.
> It was the start of the "Trad Jazz Revival"
>
> I cut my eye teeth on The Fire House Five Plus Two, and then Turk Murphy.
>  We called it "Dixieland"
> but it wasn't.  Troublemakers said "you can't call it 'dixieland' because
> it's not from DIXIE"
>
> Well that's right.  I can define Trad!   It has
>
> Tuba
> Banjo
> The front three (trumpet, clarinet, trombone)
> TUBA.
> (why tuba??? because IT GOES WITH THE BANJO!!!)
>
> Unfortunately, the early trad bands didn't pick up the Splash Cymbal, which
> was a 20's staple.
>
> So, the best trad bands now are not even in the US!!
>
> Sharkey -- from the 70's.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mx9eyBJmBs
>
> La Porteno -- from the present.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9CJVGxwnLI&feature=related
>
> Except for, of course,
> Vince Giordano, who's Nighthawks obviously capture that Coon-Sander's
> element from the 20's.
>
> Vince was the bass coach at the Adult Trad Jazz Camp I went to in San Diego,
> but I really didn't get to know him!!
>
> Anyway... historically... when the Firehouse Five plus 2 started playing,
> people called it Dixieland.
>
> "It's not Dixieland" -- the purists screamed -- it's from <gasp> California.
>   Yes.. and so was Turk Murphy.
>
> And Bob Schultz.   And we know -- it's not Dixie -- it's TRAD!!
>
> So.. anyway... I can't define "dixie" but I sure can define TRAD.  And
> that's what I want to play
>
> Rick Jolley, banjo
> The Colorado Nighthawks
> Colorado Springs, CO
>
>
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