[Dixielandjazz] Small Band Swing or Dixieland?

[Marek Boym]

> Marek:
>
> Do you happen to be familiar with Red Rodney......or Philadelpha-born Robert
> Roland Chudwick (1927-1994)?

Yes.  I've known him for many years, as a Prker sideman.  When Dizzy
Gillespie died, Rodney filled the bill at the Shafayim Jazz Festival
in Israel (Shefayim is a kibbutz not far from Te-Aviv).  Dizzy's
death, by the way, caused cancellation of many reservation, and the
festival got busted.
>

> He was even a part of Bird's quintet from 1949-1950, billed as "Albino Red"
> as he was the only white musician in the group

And, of course, I saw the film.

Having said all that, I cannotsee the relevance.  BG broke the colour
barrier in the 1930's.  Charlie Creath and Buddy Petit were much
earlier.  And Rodney had to become Albino Red for a southern tour.
Darensbourg was from the right place - New Orleans, which, as you will
agree, is not too much north.
>
Cheers
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Jim, Steve,
>> Colour has very little to do with it, but there were days it did.
>> Darensbourg played with Charlie Creath and Buddy Petit; hence, he was
>> not white - in those days no white musician would play with a black
>> band (OK, I know of Sidney Arodin).
>> Cheers
>> On 14 February 2011 20:38, Jim Kashishian <jim at kashprod.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve Voce wrote:
>> >>Although he played with Ory, I think Joe Darensbourg was probably white.
>> >> He
>> > would never be drawn on the subject.
>> >
>> > I played with him in the 50's at a Los Angeles session.  I'd say he was
>> > Creole.  Had the same coloring as Kid Ory...and much the same as the
>> > reed
>> > player with Teddy Buckner Caughy Roberts.  I never heard that he was
>> > white.
>> >
>> >
>> > Actually, the Armenian side of my family has about the same coloring,
>> > also,
>> > but Darensbourg doesn't sound very Armenian! Maybe it was originally
>> > Darensbourgian!
>> >
>> > Jim Kashishian
>> >
>> >
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