[Dixielandjazz] Small Band Swing or Dixieland?

[Harry Callaghan]

I do not feel a need to be relevant nor to agree.........I was just making
casual mention of another white musician who played with black ones

So you are obviously familiar with Red Rodney and you have therefore
answered my question. for which I thank you...
HC
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Marek:
> >
> > Do you happen to be familiar with Red Rodney......or Philadelpha-born
> Robert
> > Roland Chudwick (1927-1994)?
>
> Yes.  I've known him for many years, as a Prker sideman.  When Dizzy
> Gillespie died, Rodney filled the bill at the Shafayim Jazz Festival
> in Israel (Shefayim is a kibbutz not far from Te-Aviv).  Dizzy's
> death, by the way, caused cancellation of many reservation, and the
> festival got busted.
> >
>
> > He was even a part of Bird's quintet from 1949-1950, billed as "Albino
> Red"
> > as he was the only white musician in the group
>
> And, of course, I saw the film.
>
> Having said all that, I cannotsee the relevance.  BG broke the colour
> barrier in the 1930's.  Charlie Creath and Buddy Petit were much
> earlier.  And Rodney had to become Albino Red for a southern tour.
> Darensbourg was from the right place - New Orleans, which, as you will
> agree, is not too much north.
> >
> Cheers
>  >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Jim, Steve,
> >> Colour has very little to do with it, but there were days it did.
> >> Darensbourg played with Charlie Creath and Buddy Petit; hence, he was
> >> not white - in those days no white musician would play with a black
> >> band (OK, I know of Sidney Arodin).
> >> Cheers
> >> On 14 February 2011 20:38, Jim Kashishian <jim at kashprod.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Steve Voce wrote:
> >> >>Although he played with Ory, I think Joe Darensbourg was probably
> white.
> >> >> He
> >> > would never be drawn on the subject.
> >> >
> >> > I played with him in the 50's at a Los Angeles session.  I'd say he
> was
> >> > Creole.  Had the same coloring as Kid Ory...and much the same as the
> >> > reed
> >> > player with Teddy Buckner Caughy Roberts.  I never heard that he was
> >> > white.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Actually, the Armenian side of my family has about the same coloring,
> >> > also,
> >> > but Darensbourg doesn't sound very Armenian! Maybe it was originally
> >> > Darensbourgian!
> >> >
> >> > Jim Kashishian
> >> >
> >> >
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