[Dixielandjazz] Authenticity Violin - No Fooling
D and R Hardie
darnhard at ozemail.com.au
Tue Mar 30 22:22:35 PDT 2010
Hi Graham
Since all of the well known jazz orchestras of the early 1900’s
including that of Bolden had a violinist leader, it is surely no
trickery to include a violinist when trying to build a model of the
early jazz sound. Bolden had Tom Adams, Dee Dee Brooks and Alcide
Frank and some others performing that role from time to time. The
question is not whether to include the violin but how to establish
the proper role for the instrument. Fortunately there are good
descriptions of how it was done even in the Bolden band. Either we
succeeded or failed.
The question of the authenticity of the sound of the band is
more complicated. How can you decide ? Do you have a preconceived
idea of what it should be like? How could that be arrived at when
there is no recorded evidence? Some people might think that the
revivalist style of the 1940’s is appropriate but there are too many
difficulties with that. As you suggest, it might not be valid to
expect to hear sounds like those of Bunk Johnson or Ken Colyer
with trumpet, piano, banjo and slide trombone.
All you can do is perform the correct repertoire with
authentic instrumentation and following the performance practices
described by those witnesses who heard early jazz.
I find that the sound varies a lot from composition to
composition. More like the revivalists on the blues less so with coon
songs, spirituals and quadrilles and mazurkas. Someone criticized us
for playing Maple Leaf Rag but there is evidence Bolden probably
tried to do so and evidence that his contemporaries did too. I’m not
even sure what the reason for criticism was - possibly that it was
corny in 2010.
I hope you will catch up with one of our concerts or DVD/CD’s.
best wishes
Dan Hardie
http://tinyurl.com/nqaup
On 31/03/2010, at 11:57 AM, Graham Martin wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> New Orleans style jazz, although I doubt that reality, is not rare in
> Australian jazz. Geoff Bull gets around the scene with his own band
> playing
> the same kind of trumpet style as is in the clip, and Paul Furniss'
> beautiful reed sounds are heard in all kinds of jazz settings.
> There are
> others claiming to play N.O. jazz but they are mostly in Melbourne,
> it seems
> to me. I would say the influences are definitely there in the
> playing of
> many Aussie musicians but most do not try to reproduce that band
> sound these
> days. I have some good Aussie mates who do not think New Orleans
> traditional
> jazz is alive and well in Australia, one who organised a tour down
> here by
> Sammy Rimington. He feels it would be difficult to find a band to
> back Sammy
> these days.
>
> Just out of interest, do you think that The Buddy Bolden Revival Band
> recreates the earliest jazz sounds, or is it just another
> traditional jazz
> band after the likes of Ken Colyer? And how authentic was the
> "Governor"
> anyway? My apologies to my best mate, trumpet player Derek Winters,
> back in
> the U.K. who plays that style all the time and does is so well. To
> me, the
> style we call N.O. jazz has always been a bit of an anomaly and I
> have no
> idea what our American friends think it is.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYxok6qb6M4
>
> http://www.kencolyertrust.org/
>
> Hey, adding a violin does not fool anybody.
>
> Best,
>
> Grah
>
> Graham Martin
> REDLAND BAY
> Queensland AUSTRALIA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Oz Folk,
>
> Pallet On The Floor ~ Buddy Bolden Revival Band
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU1NtCome1A
>
> New Orleans Style OzJazz ... Rare?
>
> Richard
>
>
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