[Dixielandjazz] Nat Gonella

[Stephen G Barbone]

You are a trip Marek.

You say the comparison to Bing is not relevant, yet have not listened  
to it. Nothing like an unsupported opinion is there?

Of course I prefer the American bands to Gonella because the fact of  
the matter is that they are FAR superior, and swing much harder. Even  
Fletcher Henderson of the 1920s swung harder than Gonella.

As for Bill, I can't speak for him and neither should you attempt to  
do so.

As for what your ears hear, that's OK with me. What I hear is a rather  
stiff copier of Louis Armstrong and when I see him on You Tube I see a  
rather stiff stage presence, copied from who knows? And I have seen/ 
heard enough Gonella to last me a lifetime

I do not see/hear an instinctive jazzman at all. In fact, I believe  
even Ray Noble's band swung better than anything Gonella did,  
especially after Gonella left Noble's band.

Cheers,
Steve Barbone




On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Marek Boym wrote:

> We have already established that you always prefer American to
> European bands, because jazz was born in the US.
> Gonella's band swing as hard as all of the bands mentioned, except
> perhaps Webb's (even if I'd rather listen to BG - but he has always
> been my favourite musician).  the other exceptions - Count and Duke -
> were mentioned in my previous mail.
> Bill did not really disagree - he just considered Gonella more a
> jazzman than swinger.
> The comparison with Bing is not very relevant; nevertheless, I am
> going to watch both when I have the time.
> My listening experience shows that Gonella was a natural jazzman, with
> instinctive - rather than stidued - swing.  Take a CD of the Gonella
> band and listen, and then judge.
> Cheers
>
> On 17/01/2010, Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Bing Crosby 1932  Some of These Days
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzR4jINXF8&feature=related
>>
>>
>> Nat Gonella 1937   Some of These Days
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGfY6hEF9iY
>>
>>
>> Interesting look at Bing and then Nat 5 years later. I would say  
>> Nat is
>> trying to copy Bing.
>>
>> Regarding Nat's band swinging better than most US bands. . . . I'm  
>> with Bill
>> Haesler. If you start listening to US Swing bands of the 1930s you  
>> hear
>> Chick Webb, Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Benny Moten, Jay McShann, Bob
>> Crosby,Woody Herman,  plus a whole bunch of internationally known  
>> US bands,
>> as well as countless territory bands in the US, that swung far  
>> better than
>> Nat Gonella ever could, even in his dreams.
>>
>> IMO he was an OK player but not a jazz man and In agree with Brian  
>> Harvey
>> 100%. Showman, copier of Louis, copier of Bing Crosby, with an  
>> average band
>> that didn't come anywhere near swinging like the US Bands of the  
>> 1930s did.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Barbone
>> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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