[Dixielandjazz] Panama - "A Characteristic Novelty"
David M Richoux
tubaman at tubatoast.com
Tue Oct 6 22:12:50 PDT 2009
Well,
I knew as soon as I posted some tentative research somebody else would
have some more factual info. Thanks Ingemar!
The Dapogny version I mentioned sounds very much like the several
*Panama,* "A Characteristic Novelty" piano solos I just found
searching on the full title. Since James Dapogny is a music scholar as
well as a performer, I have to assume his band was playing from an
arrangement based very closely on the original version...
David Richoux
On Oct 6, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Ingemar Wågerman wrote:
> Gota River Jazzmen recorded Panama on CD04 "The other Side of Town"
> in 2000. Listen to the entire tune at http://listen.to/gotariver .
> (Maybe not the "definitive version", but...) I have the following
> information in the liner notes:
>
> *Panama,* "A Characteristic Novelty", was composed as a tango by
> William H. Tyers, published in 1911. It was used by the famous
> vaudeville actress, Aida Overton Walker and her Panama Girls. The
> tune should not be confused with *Panama Rag* by Ch. Seymour.
>
> Interesting information at http://www.newworldrecords.org/liner_notes/80611.pdf
> and http://www.hurricanebrassband.nl/Repertoire%20panama.htm
>
> Ingemar Wågerman
> Gota River Jazzmen
> Gothenburg, Sweden
>
>
>
> Stephen G Barbone skrev:
>> Well, I got an education about "Panama" earlier this evening. I
>> rehearsed with Tex Wyndham's rehearsal band and I asked him about
>> it. (Whether or not you like Tex, IMO, the man knows as much or
>> more about OKOM than anyone else out there)
>>
>> Sheet Music: In all his 60 years of collecting original sheet
>> music, he never saw an original of Panama. HOWEVER, he does have a
>> photo copy of the original piano sheet music which I looked at.
>>
>> Surprise Surprise. It is a 4 strain tune plus intro and tag. We
>> almost all play the correct intro (more or less) but I'd bet the
>> Farm damn few of us play the original tag. It is not the ending
>> that is in Sheik's fake book (which most bands play) but an
>> entirely different one that I have never heard anyone play. Tex has
>> no info on who first added the current tag.
>>
>> AND, the tune is written with a LATIN BEAT. Rhumba or Tango time?
>> Possibly influence of the Spanish Tinge which was prevalent in Jazz
>> at the time Panama was written.
>>
>> PLUS, the descending chorus (E Strain Out Chorus in Sheik's Fake
>> Book which almost all bands play) is not in the original sheet
>> music. Tex has no info on who first added the descending chorus.
>>
>> So if we want to do the original Panama, maybe we should listen to
>> some Tito Puente. <grin>
>>
>> Regarding the chords, I posted previously (Tex's Version) His are
>> pretty close to the original sheet music, except for the tag and
>> the descending chorus. He added those from records. Probably from
>> Turk Murphy's version. As he put it, his version is an amalgam of
>> original sheet music and various records.
>>
>> We also listened to and discussed a Condon gang recording and found
>> that the solo chorus they use is not in the original sheet music
>> either, but a variation.
>>
>> So as Sheik asked, "What is the definitive record of Panama?"
>>
>> I figure there are two possible answers.
>>
>> 1) There is none. OR
>> 2) Which ever one you like best.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Barbone
>> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>>
>> PS. I have heard there is a Stomp Off record release with a band
>> doing the latin beat Panama. Possibly The Louisiana Repertory Jazz
>> Ensemble or New Orleans Ragtime Orchestra or Pacific Coast Ragtime
>> Orchestra? Neither Tex nor I are sure if any are done to the
>> original sheet music, not having heard these versions.
>>
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