[Dixielandjazz] Jazz in New Orleans Bolden Cylinder etc

[D and R Hardie]

Hi Anton,
  I have a copy of the Saturday Review article - (see  some of his  
comments on the cylinder mentioned in The Birth Of Jazz: Reviving the  
Music of the Bolden Era) - I'll dig it out and send it to you.
I think there was a reference in Jazzmen but do not have a copy at  
the moment to check.
I vaguely recall the Sweatman Maple Leaf Rag appearing somewhere on  
the net but can't place it now.
I'd be interested in anything you turn up.
regards
Dan Hardie

On 07/06/2009, at 12:21 PM, Anton Crouch wrote:

> Hello all
>
> The latest issue of the IAJRC Journal (Vol 42, No 2, June 2009)  
> contains
> 2 reviews of Samuel Charters' new book "A trumpet around the  
> corner: the
> story of New Orleans jazz" (University Press of Mississippi, 2008).  
> The
> longer review, by listmate Charles Suhor, is very good and it makes  
> the
> excellent point that we need to actually hear the work of early New
> Orleans bands.
>
> This lead me to think about some of the legends about the emergence of
> jazz, in New Orleans and elsewhere, and to ask the question "what  
> is the
> evidence supporting these stories?". In particular:
>
> 1. The Buddy Bolden cylinder. In print, this story dates from 1957 -
> Charles E Smith's article in "Saturday Review", 16 March 1957. Smith's
> article was based on interviews with Willie Cornish in 1939. Does  
> anyone
> have a copy of the article? Or know of any earlier reference?
>
> 2. The Wilbur Sweatman cylinder. Brian Rust ("Jazz records,  
> 1897-1942")
> lists this c1903 Minneapolis recording of "Maple leaf rag". Does  
> anyone
> know if a copy has ever been discovered?
>
> 3. The Columbia telegram. Some time ago, in the sleeve notes to a CD
> reissue, I came across a reference to a Columbia Graphaphone Company
> executive visiting New Orleans c1918, searching for bands to record in
> the wake of the success of the ODJB. He supposedly send a telegram to
> head office in New York, saying "No jazz in New Orleans". Does anyone
> know which CD this is, and what is the basis for the story?
>
> 4. Freddie Keppard's Victor recording contract. This is discussed
> at-length in Lawrence Gushee's "Pioneers of jazz, the story of the
> Creole Band" (Oxford University Press, 2005). Gushee concludes that
> Keppard did turn down a recording contract in early 1916 and, also,  
> made
> test recordings. Has the proposed contract, a copy of which was
> supposedly kept by the band, turned up?
>
> I am sceptical about the test recordings. Victor kept ledger  
> details of
> test recordings, even those with no matrix numbers, and I can find
> nothing to support the story in the Victor Discography Project at the
> University of California, Santa Barbara.
>
> Any info, on any of these subjects, will be greatly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
> Anton
>
>
>
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