[Dixielandjazz] By Ned, we invented the genre
Dave Gannett
evidence at otelco.net
Sat Jul 11 15:18:19 PDT 2009
Wow - a night to treasure! I always LOVED quizzing the "old-timers" about
their days in the business - walking time machines with hilarious and often
stunning insights into their contemporaries. When I was with the Don Ellis
band I lived with Manny Klein, the great studio trumpet of Hollywood's
Golden Age, and would talk with him about such matters. He had AMAZING home
movies of the Dorsey brothers, Jerry Colona and a host of other well knowns
in full party mode, which included ample evidence of ignited materials being
used in a sport context. Sure wish I had those movies! Same with Wild Bill
when I played with him in the '70's - man, the STORIES! (and what a grumpy
old cuss...) Like you, I did countless nights in clubs such as Rosie
O'Gradies. I thought I would quite literally GO MAD if I had to play "The
Saints" or the Can-Can one more time! My drink of choice was a double 151
rum on the rocks on each break. Never got drunk or disorderly, just knocked
the crowd back a notch or two. As you well know, you hit "the wall" like
runners do at a certain point and you either get through it or kack. Once I
got through the wall though, I apparently had a callous on my brain and the
tunes no longer bothered me. During the heyday in the '70's and '80's in
Orlando, it was entirely common to work 7 days a week day and night for
months at a time, doing two eight hour gigs plus casuals on the side. We
had the same experience at Rosie's - huge book but played the same basic
group of tunes 'cuz THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED. Fortunately we had some great
players, great subs, great arrangments (though by far most of our stuff was
"head") and a crowd of 1500 for each show 3 and 4 shows a night. I can
remember literally falling asleep with my tuba, sitting on my stool and keep
right on playing - I'd wake up a couple of measure later and my subconscious
had taken care of business while I was gone. A weird feeling. It was kind
of cool though, after weeks and months of only 4 hours of sleep a night,
everything became a giant dream - sometimes wasn't sure whether I was
dreaming Mickey or he was dreaming me!
You had some great experiences playing in the apple, Steve. One day I'll
proceed with the book stuff. Meanwhile, those interested in reading some of
my stories (at least, those I haven't pissed off by being honest) can go to
http://www.tubagear.com and click on "Today's Tuba Talk" at the top of the
page.
Keep playing like you need the money...
dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen G Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Dave Gannett" <evidence at otelco.net>
Cc: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] By Ned, we invented the genre
> Please write the book Dave. Too much will be forgotten if you don't. Like
> last night I did a gig with Marty Grosz and we talked about life and jazz
> in the "good old days." I have to say it was one hell of an interesting
> night. He should write a book too as he played with just about everybody
> and he has a hell of a perspective on the music. His stories about Joe
> Sullivan are hillarious. And his opinion that Reginald Kell ruined Benny
> Goodman's sound and energy level was interesting. It made even me, who
> hates musical archeology, want to go back to the records to check it out
>
> Back in the late 1950s I worked 6 hours a night, 6 nights a week for 3
> months straight in a Dixieland joint in NYC. Our book was no more than
> 150 tunes but we rarely got to play even them in a week because the
> customers demanded the same 30 or 40 Dixieland War Horses time and again.
> I can well understand how earlier musos got into booze and drugs in that
> scenario. I quickly became a Dixieland zombie and my booze intake soared
> to a pint of gin per night. I had great chops during that gig, but
> creativity suffered and I was thankful when it ended and I got to gig
> with other bands.
>
> You could see that kind of thing with Wilbur DeParis at Jimmy Ryan's.
> Even the great Omer Simeon got pretty routine, playing High Society at
> least 6 times a week for a couple of years. He just stared off into space
> on the tune, but unlike Sullivan who played intermission piano there, he
> didn't curse out the college kids who asked silly questions, or made
> those war horse tune requests.
>
> Cheers
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Dave Gannett wrote:
>
>> Hah! A worthy observation. Steve, if you'd spent a couple weeks
>> touring with The Black Dogs, you would'a thought you were back in the
>> '30's for sure! One of the reasons the band was so wildly popular was
>> that we brought to our performances the LIFESTYLE of that era's jazz
>> musician, which spilled out all over our stage presentation, the music
>> and the overall time traveler vibe. Each of us felt in the deepest part
>> of our souls that we were born 20-30 years too late and that somehow, we
>> could go back to the time where we belonged. Someday I will write a
>> book about our incredible adventures. Suffice to say, our performances
>> were just the tip of the iceberg. Thanks for your insights...
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