[Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleveland

James Butler jbutler6 at twcny.rr.com
Fri Aug 29 19:14:57 PDT 2008


Okay you are not an idiot but for someone who has "listened" to "jazz" over
50 years I think you need to find out just what exactly jazz is.

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK,
> So I am an idiot.  Not a sin.  Probably the reason I care to reply to
> a polite person like you.  But I have ears.  And have listened to jazz
> for well over 50 years.  And I don't care how great the technique of
> Cleveland was - his playing did not usually sound like jazz to me
> (although, if I'm not mistaken, I did mention that he was closer to
> jazz than JJ).
>
>
> On 29/08/2008, James Butler <jbutler6 at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> > Only an idiot with no knowledge of what it takes to play a trombone would
> > ever disparage a talent like Jimmy Cleveland and don't give me that B.S
> that
> > he didn't play DIXIELAND. WHEW!!
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Randy,
> > >
> > > Please explain.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Fendrick" <
> jfendrick at bak.rr.com>
> > > To: "Bob Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
> > > Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleveland
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Give a break!  You need to watch the movie  "the gig" that puts it all
> in
> > >> perspective.
> > >> =-)!
> > >> later,
> > >> rf
> > >> On Aug 28, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Marek Boym wrote:
> > >>
> > >> But neither Johnson nor Cleveland played OKOM (the latter - more so).
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>>
> > >>> On 29/08/2008, Marty Nichols <marnichols at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Stan Brager posted:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Message: 2
> > >>>> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:12:55 -0700
> > >>>> From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> > >>>> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleaveland
> > >>>> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,    <
> Duke-lym at concordia.ca>
> > >>>> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > >>>> Message-ID: <001601c90881$4b7063f0$e2512bd0$@rr.com>
> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> According to his Wiki, trombonist Jimmy Cleveland died last Saturday
> -
> > >>>> August 23, 2008. A marvelous bop trombonists with great chops
> capable of
> > >>>> covering the entire range of the horn with apparent ease.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Cleveland
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stan
> > >>>> Stan Brager
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In my book Jimmy Cleveland is probably the most "unsung hero of the
> > >>>> trombone" , and this among many, many other giants of the trombone
> who get
> > >>>> little recognition for their efforts in jazz. I still feel pain when
> I
> > >>>> remember that the Ken Burns jazz thing (what was it called?) omitted
> mention
> > >>>> of the great J. J. Johnson except for a photo of J.J. in a session
> with
> > >>>> Miles Davis. But that is off the subject; Jimmy Cleveland was
> another great
> > >>>> that too few got a chance to hear IMO.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Marty Nichols
> > >>>> http://www.esnips.com/web/jazztrombone
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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