[Dixielandjazz] Woody and others--CARPY or CRAPPY?

Charles Suhor csuhor at zebra.net
Thu Dec 21 11:57:43 PST 2006


Tom, did you say CARP bands, or CRAP bands? :)

Delicate topic? So many of us on the list (me included) are weekend  
players and/or amateurs who might be judged as somewhat, er, carpy in a  
blindfold test by fellow DJMLers. But so long as there are audiences  
who dig this less-than-salmon quality music, we'll continue to find our  
place on the planet for our own and others' enjoyment. It don't do no  
harm, except when more skilled artists lose work to the less skilled  
and when the latter get more gigs by playing cheap--a gripe often  
argued on this site.

A final point--"amateur" and "weekend" don't necessarily mean  
carpy/crappy. Many a weekender plays with more feeling and skill than  
many a professional. The tradition of the gifted amateur has roots in  
the earliest jazz and parallels in other arts. It's sometimes  
infuriating to the less-than-gifted fulltimers, who count on the  
"professional" label to feed both their families and their egos.

Charlie Suhor



On Dec 21, 2006, at 1:09 PM, tcashwigg at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Larry & All:
>
> There are a whole lot bigger Carp in the water in OKOM than WOODY
> ALLEN, and many of them have been swimming around in it muddying it up
> long before Woody saw and heard them and got inspired to do the same.
> :))   They just simply have not been successful enough for anybody to
> notice. :))
>
> You can see Carp bands and players all over this market called
> Dixieland, and in any other genre of music too for that matter, they
> all have a place on the planet I suppose and obviously a purpose in the
> system, like the price difference between Salmon, Swordfish and Carp
> and Catfish in the supermarket.   Kind of like degrees of quality found
> in almost everything else in life, Woody could just as well have been a
> Doctor or Lawyer or Engineer dabbling in music on his days off between
> making movies.   Hey Paul Newman makes Pasta Sauce on his days off and
> other food products, some are better than others but they keep his face
> out in the public and his name recognition going.
>
> There are many people out there that actually like CARP and Catfish and
> Gar, who have never tasted Salmon or Swordfish much less having ever
> seen the Ocean.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>    Tom said:
> Funny thing but everybody on this list has heard of Wood Allen but you
> can bet there are lots of folks on hear who never heard of any of the
> ret of us, good bad or indifferent.
>
> OK Lets say someone who has never heard OKOM goes to Woody's concert
> and
> found him to be totally inadequate and the music not well done.  They
> went
> there for whatever reason, celebrity, curiosity or someone bought them
> the
> ticket.  Would that person then hire or pay to see anyone else who is
> playing the same type of music or would they be turned off on it?
>
> There are many kinds of fish but the Carp muddies the water so much
> that
> other fish can't live there.
> Larry
> St. Louis
>
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