[Dixielandjazz] (no subject) handicapped
tcashwigg at aol.com
tcashwigg at aol.com
Mon Aug 14 12:18:38 PDT 2006
WHOA WHOA Guys:
Here we go again reading assumptions into posts making them stranger
than they actually were:
I simply brought up the ineptness of the planner in one particular
parking lot with HC spaces where they are never I repeat never used
and are actually in a totally inappropriate area for use by any HC
person who need them. My point was simply that they put them in a
place od great distance from any place on the campus that HC people
would be going, and thereby did a great Disservice to any HC person who
need a parking spot for the Lawfully intended reasons and purposes.
This simply means that they wasted the spaces that should have been in
a better area for use and therefore are short spaces where they need to
be. Poor Planning is all I am stressing here not that They should not
have HC parking spaces.
I am on the HC folks side all the way, heck I even made my walkway and
drive way HC accessible , I am not an OGRE against HC persons, and may
well be one myself some day, more so than the Obvious "Dain Brammage"
I already have.
I have also played music for a local organizations Wheel Chair Races
and Wheel chair basketball game.
Cheers,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: DWSI at aol.com
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re:[Dixielandjazz] (no subject) handicapped
In a message dated 8/14/2006 10:34:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com writes:
Those of us who are handicapped have all learned a life of patience.
We ask
you to be patient too.
Mart
Thank you Mart for an injection of common sense in this strangely
unwinding
thread. If I read some of the comments correctly, (please correct me if
I'm
not), some people seem to think that (a) you don't deserve a HC tag
unless you
require a wheelchair, (or the equivalent), (b) play the sport at which
the HC
parking stalls are placed, (e.g., if you're in a wheelchair, how can
you
play tennis?), or (c) that there are too many HC stalls and their
placement
doesn't make sense.
The state law provides the basic rules for the allocation of HC
stalls, (and
the basic HC ID that each legitimate handicapped person must carry, in
addition to a license plate or hangtag), the local, (usually
municipal),
government defines the exact number and location.
Defining HC spaces is not based on some "common sense" rule-of-thumb,
and it
is indeed fortunate that it is not. All you need do is to reread the
above
assumptions to verify the obvious lack of knowledge surrounding the use
of HC
tags and spaces.
Handicapped is a classification defined by a doctor, (who must sign a
certificate in the state of New Jersey, at least). That certificate is
submitted
to
the MVD at the state level and the licencseplate, or tag, and necessary
personal ID card are issued directly to the HC individual. It took
awhile for
mine to be come. I have progressive emphysema. I can walk when I can
breathe,
but I do not need or use a wheelchair, walker or cane. However, when
an
infection, or sudden exertion, lowers my B/O level below 87% I cannot
do
much--except struggle to get to an ER ASAP. Emphysema is the fourth
highest
killer in
the U.S. Part of the risk is lack of ability to remove CO2 fast
enough--causing
a collapse of the right side of the heart. How much more would you
like to
hear about non-wheelchair need for HC parking? I have to walk slowly
sometimes. Sometimes I must carry portable oxygen. At those times It
helps a
lot not
to have to walk further than necessary. Am I boring everyone with all
this
detail? Sorry. I just wanted to clarify a few, apparent
misunderstandings about
HC. Yes, some people do misuse the HC spaces, but I've found a
surprisingly
large number of solid citizens not abuse the spaces just because they
can.
Thank God for them! They can literally save a life in some instances.
For what this is worth,
Dan (backup piano) Spink
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