[Dixielandjazz] Putting Down???????

[Robert S. Ringwald]

Sorry.  Looks like I originally sent this direct to Steve instead of to 
DjML.

--Bob Ringwald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
To: "Steve Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Putting Down???????


>A couple comments:
>
> You say:
>
> (snip)
>>> There is more art and humor in the
>>> following musical poem, than in most Dixieland played these days. :-)
> (snip)
>
> Then you say:
>
> (snip)
> There is no put down of
>> musicians on the list, or the music as I see it.
> (snip)
>
> I'm trying to figure that one out.  Are you sure you are not a politician?
>
> Then you try to shift the blame by saying:
>
> (snip)
> The real put down was done by those whose words prompted my post. Namely
>> hat the thread was neither funny, nor adult. And that those who were
>> enjoying it were neither adult, nor humorous
>> (snip)
>
> Regardless of why you made the comment, you still put down the music by 
> saying, "most Dixieland played these days."
>
> Then you say:
>
> (snip)
> Just what makes us DJMLers think that we play "most" of the Dixieland in 
> the
>> world? In total, we play very little of it by compared to those players 
>> who
> those players who
>> are not on the list.
> (snip)
>
> So what.  Don't cloud the issue.
>
> You made a negative comment about Dixieland played today.  Since most of 
> the musicians on DjML play Dixieland, you then were being unnecessarily 
> negative about the music we play.
>
> You made the comment.  Own up to it.  Don't try to wiggle out of the 
> meaning.
>
> And, you said:
>
> (snip)
> Just what makes us DJMLers think that we play "most" of the Dixieland in 
> the
>> world?
> (snip)
>
> I don't know where you got that idea.  I certainly don't think that any of 
> us think that.  With close to 600 members, not all being musicians, it is 
> a silly comment.
>
> Thanks for your answer, even if it was not really an answer.
>
> VBG, as you say.
>
> --bob Ringwald
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:33 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Putting Down???????
>
>
>> "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
>>
>>>
>>> Steve, you wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>> There is more art and humor in the
>>> following musical poem, than in most Dixieland played these days. :-)
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>> Steve, I sit here wondering why you make such negative statements about 
>>> the
>>> music we love and are all playing these days?
>>>
>>> It is my opinion that you could have quoted the poem without putting 
>>> down
>>> the music we play & thereby putting down the musicians (us on the list) 
>>> who
>>> are playing it.
>>
>> Well, since you asked.:-) VBG
>>
>> Putting down is in the eye or ear of the beholder. There is no put down 
>> of
>> musicians on the list, or the music as I see it. Just a comparison.
>>
>> The real put down was done by those whose words prompted my post. Namely
>> that the thread was neither funny, nor adult. And that those who were
>> enjoying it were neither adult, nor humorous
>>
>> Who makes those folks the authority on either? And so the put down was 
>> meant
>> for those who have no sense of humor, and/or have hang ups about all 
>> those
>> things we poor humans do that involve bodily functions.
>>
>> The music? I did not put it down, I merely stated that the poems were 
>> more
>> artistic and humorous than "most" of the Dixieland played these days.
>>
>> Seems to me that those musicians on the DJML who play great Dixieland 
>> would
>> consider themselves not included in the "most", and therefore not put 
>> down.
>> Same for the music.
>>
>> Just what makes us DJMLers think that we play "most" of the Dixieland in 
>> the
>> world? In total, we play very little of it by compared to those players 
>> who
>> are not on the list.
>>
>> Reminds me of a song: "You're So Vain, You Probably Think This Song Is 
>> About
>> You." Well, it isn't.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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