[Dixielandjazz] Wonder what is wrong with music in Schools today ?

tcashwigg at aol.com tcashwigg at aol.com
Fri Oct 21 09:38:59 PDT 2005


Ahaaa  Bob:  Obviously he envied no man either not even you . :))

Now If I could get that kid and Larry's kid in my band whoooeee  they 
would fit right in with all their peers of yesteryear.
They will probably grow up to be Wild Bill Davidsons  or Bill Clintons 
and boy will you and Larry be Sorry :))

Cheers,

Tom  (no Buddy Rich)  Wiggins


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Romans <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
To: Larry Walton Entertainment <larrys.bands at charter.net>; 
tcashwigg at aol.com
Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Sent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:10:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Wonder what is wrong with music in Schools 
today ?

    Hi Larry...take away his mouthpiece! That's like putting Vaseline on 
the bow of the smart-ass string player who keeps messing around... 
  My last year teaching band I had a jerky kid who transferred in from 
NY-8th grade. He was a general pain in the ass before band 
started...everyday! He wouldn't sit down, just wandered around talking 
and disrupting the scene, when I would ask him nicely to sit down and 
take out his trumpet, he told me F-you...in front of the whole 
band...to get him to the office down the hall was almost 
impossible.."Don't touch me", F-you, over and over...one inch steps to 
the office...in 35 years of teaching I never had a problem like that, 
then my last two months this kid appears! The vice-principle wouldn't 
do ANYTHING!!! I got out of teaching JUST barely before I murdered and 
dismembered that kid! :~) (and a TRUMPET player yet!!!) 
 Warm regards, 
 Bob Romans, 
 Cell Block 7 Jazz Band 
 1617 Lakeshore Dr. 
 Lodi, Ca. 95242 
 209-339-4676 
 www.cellblockseven2002.net 
 Cell 209-747-1148 
 Because I play trumpet, I envy no one. 
 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 
 
  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Walton Entertainment" 
<larrys.bands at charter.net> 
 To: <tcashwigg at aol.com> 
 Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com> 
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:56 AM 
  Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Wonder what is wrong with music in 
Schools today ? 
 
  > As some of you know I teach band part time along with two other band 
 > directors in a private school run by a major denomination here in St. 
 > Louis. For the size of the school we have a large band program. 65 
kids > in A band and 30 in B band. Not bad for a school of not quite 
600 kids. 
 > 
  > This is how one kid can ruin a session for everyone. During my 
rehearsal > the kids were generally talking a bit but could be quited 
down but several > times when I would be talking to the group there was 
one kid in the back > on Bari sax who continued playing. I asked him to 
stop and went on. > Unfortunately so did he. I asked him to please 
practice at home and not > on our time. He then argued that the bari 
was too big to carry home. (I > played bari in Jr. High and took it on 
the bus but that was the good old > days). He started playing again. I 
told him if one more note came out > of that horn He was going to the 
Principals office. He said he wouldn't > go. I told him that I would 
start getting pretty crude because he didn't > seem to understand me. 
Again he said no. I told him in no un certain > words to shut up again 
he said No. I told him to go to the office. Again > he said no so I 
brought the office to him and he was escorted out of the > class. 
Personally, I think I gave him too many warnings but this was out > of 
the blue with no reason. The truth is that he will be back in band > 
faster than I will. 
 > 
  > Contrast this with an honor band that I am working with. The 
rehearsals > go without a peep coming out of the kids. A lot of adult 
bands can't do > that. The difference is that in the first case the 
kids sign up for band > for a credit and a place to talk with their 
friends there is no place to > send them if they aren't in band that 
hour and the second is that the kids > will be asked to leave instantly 
if they don't behave. 
 > Guess which band plays better? 
 > 
  > Money talks, the school wants that kids $7000 tuition so they don't 
want > to make the parents unhappy so he will get to continue being in 
band and > I'm sure that I haven't heard the last out of him. He will 
come back to > class with a swagger showing me and the others that he 
got away with it. > This is at a college prep school no less. 
 > 
 > I can't wait to see what happens next week. 
 > Larry Walton 
 > St. Louis 
 > 
 > tcashwigg at aol.com wrote: 
 >> I just lifted this post off another list for musicians: 
 >> 
 >> I spared you guys my reply :)) 
 >> 
  >> Some of you that are retired need to give it up and go back and 
teach >> them that is teaching your grandkids. 
 >> 
 >> Sadly 
 >> 
 >> Tom I Dunno Squat cause I'm a drummer and not a real musician, 
 >> 
  >> Thank Goodness I could have turned out to be a music teacher like 
this >> one :)) And to think they give these folks Degrees and 
credentials to >> teach others. 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> The Post I swear: 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> What's The Difference between Blues and Jazz? 
 >> 
 >> 
  >> I'm a teacher who is going through a chapter on music. We're moving 
into >> music styles, like jazz and blues. what's the difference 
between these 2 >> genres? They sound so similar to me. I would 
appreciate any responses >> asap. Thanks. 
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