[Dixielandjazz] Re: Military bands and OKOM

Fred Spencer drjz at bealenet.com
Thu Jun 30 08:51:30 PDT 2005

Dear Bill,
You flatter me! These are some of the books that may be relevant many which 
I have "gathered" from innumerable library sales and used bookshops.
--Bands of America. H.W. Scharwtz. Doubleday, 1957, with a picture captioned 
"Ted Lewis and other 'jazz bands' forced Sousa to play half hour of 
syncopated music in 1924". Reportedly Sousa was not averse to jazz.
--Bands of the World. Al G. Wright and Stanley Newcomb. The Instrumentalist 
Co. 1970.
--Music and Muskets. Bands and Bandsmen of the American Civil War. Greenwood 
Press, 1981. These bands have been associated with jazz because the
Confederate musicians' instruments came on the market after the war. 
--Music in New Orleans.. The Formastive Years. 1791-1841.Louisana State 
University Press, 1966.
--The Great Olympia Band. Mick Burns. Jazzology Press, 2001 (?already 
--Brass Bands. Peter Gammond and Raymond Horricks, ed. UK. Patrick Stephens, 
Jazz In Print.(1856-1929). Pendragon Press, 2002 Enormous amount of 
I would be interested in other questions-- 
Who turned from jazz to the classics e.g.Mel Powell, Fred Elizalde.
--Which jazz musicians became members of Salvation Army Bands?
 One book perhaps of more interest is The Big Bands Went To War (WWII). 
Chris Way, Mainstream Publishing, 1991.
-- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
To: "David Richoux" <tubaman at tubatoast.com>; "dixieland jazz mail list"
<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>; "Luis Daniel Flores" <luda at arnet.com.ar>
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:10 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Military bands and OKOM

> "Big Band Jazz, according to one historian, had its start in New Orleans
> in
> 1898 at the end of the Spanish-American war. Military bands returned to
> the
> port to decommission, flooding the city with used band instruments. And
> African-Americans interested in music quickly bought up hundreds of these
> instruments and quickly began to form bands. Starting from square one,
> aspiring African-American musicians taught themselves to play."
> Bob Thomas (1994). From "Music of London" web site.
> Dear Luis and Dave,
> An intriguing topic, touched on frequently by jazz historians but not yet,
> to my knowledge, the subject of a dedicated book.
> Dr Fred Spencer, Dan Hardie, Charlie Suhor - any information?
> Jazz history books, from Frederic Ramsay, Jr and Charles Edward Smith's
> "Jazzmen"  (1939), Rudi Blesh's "Shining Trumpets" (1946) through to
> Richard
> Knowles' "Fallen Heroes (1996) and Daniel Hardie's "The Loudest Trumpet"
> (2000), touch on the subject.
> However, the historical connection between military bands, brass bands and
> jazz (from its beginnings to the present) requires a book, rather than an
> essay, based on extensive new and original research.
> Probably best left to a non jazz-influenced researcher.
> An ideal thesis for a PhD.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
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