[Dixielandjazz] Re: New Orleans Stomp (Again...)

[David W. Littlefield]

The copyright sheet of NOS says "Armstrong" and is in the same hand as
other Armstrong sheets. The Oliver sheets seem to be in 2 different hands,
one being Armstrong's, the other probably Oliver's. Now as to *which*
Armstrong, Lil or Louis (yes, yes, I know Lil was Hardin at that time, but
not during the Hot 5 period), I would speculate that Lil was probably the
one who wrote and submitted most of the Armstrong sheets to the Copyright
Office. 

FWTW.
--Sheik
"Dixieland Fake Book Vol. 2 (C)" is out.


At 08:19 PM 07/29/05 +1000, Bill Haesler wrote:
>Luis Flores dais [in part]: > I do have the following versions:
>Snip:  -Louis Armstrong and Johnny Dodds, black bottom stompers-clarinet
>wobble disc 1, 1927, Dodds as author
>-Antigua jazz band, ´´Jazz caliente´´,where figure Hardin as author.
>[Luis, Is this the one I have on a Tonodisc LP Ton-1022?]
>Dear Luis,
>Although I have yet to answer Luis Henriques' original question, your email
>has raised an interesting question.
>One I had not realised before.
>Who composed "New Orleans Stomp"?
>As reissue LPs and CDs have, over the years, frequently misinterpreted or
>provided incorrect information regarding tune titles and composer credits, I
>always (where possible) go back to the original source.
>In the case of the first recording of "New Orleans Stomp" (16 Oct 1923) by
>King Oliver's Jazz Band, the composer credit on the Columbia 13003 D gives
>'Oliver and Picou'.
>The list of King Oliver copyrights in the bio-discography 'King Oliver' by
>Laurie Wright does not include "New Orleans Stomp", although it does list
>"Chattanooga Stomp" also credited on the same Columbia release as by 'Oliver
>and Picou'. Picou claimed that he often sent tunes to Oliver, who fashioned
>them [with Lil Hardin's help] to suit the Creole Band.
>However, the Vocalion 15632 record by Johnny Dodds' Black Bottom Stompers
>(22 April 1927) gives credit to 'Hardin-Armstrong'.
>These were the only two classic jazz versions made of the tune until Turk
>Murphy revived it for Good Time Jazz in May 1949.
>Did Columbia get the composer credit wrong? And did Joe Oliver realise it
>was incorrect and never claimed credit for the tune?
>Louis recorded "New Orleans Stomp" in Sept/Oct 1959 for Audio Fidelity (the
>Peanuts Hucko session) of which I only have a few tracks on odd CDs.
>However this version was (so far as I know) only on a Chiaroscuro LP (which
>I have never seen).
>There is also a discographal mention that "New Orleans Stomp" was on the
>sound track of the 1946 Louis/Billie film 'New Orleans'.
>However, I can't find any evidence of this.
>Still checking this out.
>Kind regards,
>Bill. 
>
>
>
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