[Dixielandjazz] Artie and Charlie
Richard Broadie
rbroadie at dc.rr.com
Thu Jan 6 10:28:15 PST 2005
Here in Palm Springs, Charlie Barnet and I had lunch every Thursday at noon
for a number of years, with breaks when he "summered" in Del Mar at the
track. He was married to Betty for 23 years at the time of his death so
he was pretty monogamous for quite some time. He used to joke to me about
his high morality. "Other guys would wake up in bed with a strange woman on
Sunday morning and that was it. In my case, I would wake up to discover
that I had married each and every one of them!"
I don't think anyone could live with Artie Shaw for 23 years without going
nuts IMHO. Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Spencer" <drjz at bealenet.com>
To: <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: Fw: [Dixielandjazz] Artie Shaw music clips / information
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Spencer" <drjz at bealenet.com>
> To: "Steve barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Artie Shaw music clips / information
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>
>> Dear Steve et al.,
>> Three of Artie Shaw's eight wives reveal a lot about him in these books--
>> Ava Gardner. "Ava My Story", autobiography.
>> "Ava's Men", Jane Ellen Wayne.
>> Evelyn Keyes. 'Scarlett O'Hara's Younger Sister" and "I'll Think About
>> That Tomorrow", autobiographies.
>> "Lana Turner", Joe Morello & Edward Z. Epstein.
>> The second Keyes book has a nice picture of Shaw captioned "Old husband,
>> new friend--Artie, March, 1990."
>>
>> From "Ava. My Story"--"I was born...in Grabtown, North Carolina. Not
>> Brogden, not Smithfield, like so many of the books say." This explains
>> the Gramercy Five's "Grabtown Grapple"--who wouldn't skirmish with Ava if
>> they had thechance? Eric Townley in "Tell Your Story" wrote "No
>> information".
>>
>> I don't recall whether anyone noted that Artie Shaw came in second in the
>> marriage stakes--Charlie Barnet had eleven wives! Connubially.
>> Fred.
>>
>> --- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:36 PM
>> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Artie Shaw music clips / information
>>
>>
>>> To hear some later Artie Shaw, go to the below website. Move around it
>>> and
>>> click on "These Foolish Things".
>>>
>>> http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/mar/shaw/
>>>
>>> There is also a lot of other good stuff there. Especially excerpts from
>>> his
>>> bio like the one below.
>>>
>>> ----begin snip
>>> Among the string of women he married were movie stars Lana Turner and
>>> Ava
>>> Gardner. It was a world, he insists, not of his choosing, but hard to
>>> resist.
>>>
>>> "You run into a party and (a) woman comes up to you. She's the most
>>> beautiful creature you ever saw -- Ava Gardner -- and says, 'I like you
>>> and
>>> why don't we get together?' What are you going to say, 'No'? You'd have
>>> to
>>> be an idiot. She was an incredible creature."
>>>
>>> ----end snip
>>>
>>> Hey, that's why I took up clarinet. :-) VBG
>>>
>>> Seriously though, if this never happened to you, (maybe not Ava or Lana
>>> but
>>> still desirable) you are not really a jazz musician. :-) VBG.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve Barbone
>>>
>>>
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