[Dixielandjazz] Stolen tunes

[Brian Towers]

Hal,

You may mean the rag "Trombonium" but maybe not - to my ear it is nothing 
like "Ory's Creole Trombone"  and I have played both.
Cheers,
Brian Towers
http://hotfivejazz.tripod.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Vickery" <hvickery at svs.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Stolen tunes


> Ory's Creole Trombone was appropriated from a ragtime tune I used to play,
> and now I can't think of the title.  You might find a thread on it from
> several years ago in the archives of rec.music.ragtime.  (Or is it
> alt.music.ragtime) if you have Usenet access.  Somebody reminded me of the
> title there and I've since forgotten it again.
>
> Hal Vickery
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Jim O'Briant
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:29 AM
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Stolen tunes
>
> Mike wrote:
>
>> I wasn't aware Ory stole tunes. Can you
>> explain this a little further?
>
> There was recently a discussion here about an alleged tune plagiarism
> involving Kid Ory -- though in this case he was said to be the victim 
> rather
> than the plagiarist.  The original tune was Muskrat Ramble; the song based
> on it was one whose name I forget, but it was a 1960's anti-war song by, I
> think, Country Joe and the Fish.  ("For it's one, two, three, what are we
> fightin' for.....)
>
> The copyright infringement lawsuit was decided in favor of Joe McDonald. 
> I
> think that the plagiarism was obvious and that this was a miscarriage of
> justice.
>
> Jim O'Briant
> Gilroy, CA
>
>
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