[Dixielandjazz] Stolen tunes

D and R Hardie darnhard at ozemail.com.au
Sat Dec 3 14:06:05 PST 2005


Hi Hal,
  I think it was a movement the Carbarlick Acid Rag (as Bunk Johnson 
indicated in an interview).
The original piano score of the rag confirmed this.
regards
Dan Hardie
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~darnhard/EarlyJazzHistory.html

> Ory's Creole Trombone was appropriated from a ragtime tune I used to 
> play,
> and now I can't think of the title.  You might find a thread on it from
> several years ago in the archives of rec.music.ragtime.  (Or is it
> alt.music.ragtime) if you have Usenet access.  Somebody reminded me of 
> the
> title there and I've since forgotten it again.
>
> Hal Vickery
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> O'Briant
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:29 AM
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Stolen tunes
>
> Mike wrote:
>
>> I wasn't aware Ory stole tunes. Can you
>> explain this a little further?
>
> There was recently a discussion here about an alleged tune plagiarism
> involving Kid Ory -- though in this case he was said to be the victim 
> rather
> than the plagiarist.  The original tune was Muskrat Ramble; the song 
> based
> on it was one whose name I forget, but it was a 1960's anti-war song 
> by, I
> think, Country Joe and the Fish.  ("For it's one, two, three, what are 
> we
> fightin' for.....)
>
> The copyright infringement lawsuit was decided in favor of Joe 
> McDonald.  I
> think that the plagiarism was obvious and that this was a miscarriage 
> of
> justice.
>
> Jim O'Briant
> Gilroy, CA
>
>
>
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