[Dixielandjazz] River Boat Five

[Don Ingle]

Ted Butterman is still a ctive in chicago -- leads the home game "pep" band
at the Chicago Cubs baseball games. Puzzled by the instrument listings for
Butterman as tu/sb (tuba string bass) as Ted is a cornet player...don't ask
abotu hsi horn, another story there all together.
Charlie has worked with this band as has Kim Cusack, and many other current
players in Chicago.
Ted is a good player and has held the leader role form sme tme now.
Ji and Charlie can no doubt fill youo in more...after all, as you note, I am
back in the woods huntin' and fishin' a lot. Have no fear, animal lovers -- 
the way I shoot adds little danger for the demise of cute little bunny/Bambi
types. Sometimes I do rarely join the PETA bunch...People Eating Tasty
Animals --but then what are canine teeth for in Homo Sapiens? (Incoming -- 
Duck and run!!)
Don Ingle
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Haesler" <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
To: "dixieland jazz mail list" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: "Don Ingle" <dingle at baldwin-net.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:50 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] River Boat Five


> Dear friends,
> I suppose this is really one for our Chicago friends.
> (Where are you Charlie Hooks and Jim Beebe when we need you?)
> Or perhaps me mate Don Ingle is back from his backwoods (backwards?)
huntin'
> 'n' 'fishin' trip, and can help.
> The River Boat Five (actually a septet) made several LPs in the late 50s
in
> Chicago before the leader clarinettist Ed Reed moved to Los Angeles in
about
> 1960.
> The several discographies I have suggest that the personnel for the
Chicago
> recordings for Mercury were:
> Ed Reed (cl, ts), Ted Butterman (t), Wray (or) Gene Thomas (tb), Keller
> Merck (p), Milt Fitch (bj), Ed Tedder (tu), Jim Lunsford (d).
> However an original LP owned by a friend of mine (I do not have any of the
> records) indicates on the cover that the lineup is: Ed Reed (cl, ts), Ted
> Butterman (tu/sb), Gene Thomas (t),  Keller Merck (d), Milt Fitch (bj),
> Louis Tedder (p), Jim Lunsford (tb).
> Can anyone who knows/knew these musicians please confirm the correct
> instrumentation ?
> Also.
> A 1960 Mercury LP by the River Boat 5 recorded in LA which includes leader
> Ed Reed, cl/ts; Eddie Miller, ts; Nappy Lamare, g; Ray Bauduc, d; also has
a
> great tuba player, according to my mate who also has this LP. Could this
> unnamed musician be Phil Stevens?
> Later LPs made in LA by the band include Phil Stevens, Bob Havens, Stan
> Wrightsman, Nick Fatool and Dick Cathcart - the cream of the 60s LA studio
> musicians.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
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