[Dixielandjazz] Re: Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 19, Issue 12
Harry Epp
heppkat at juno.com
Fri Jul 9 15:12:05 PDT 2004
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> 1. Re: LA Area Jazz Meet 7/11/04 (Stan Brager)
> 2. Re: Sacramento, Too Large? (Robert S. Ringwald)
> 3. Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes (DWSI at aol.com)
> 4. Stars & Stripes Piano Solo (AL LEVY)
> 5. Trad event on Steamboat Natchez held Wednesday July 7
> (Norman Vickers)
> 6. Re: Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
> (Robert S. Ringwald)
> 7. Re: Stars & Stripes (Patrick Cooke)
> 8. There is more than one way to skin a cat. (Stephen Barbone)
> 9. Re: There is more than one way to skin a cat.
> (Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon)
> 10. Re: Guest Musicians redux (TCASHWIGG at aol.com)
> 11. Re: There is more than one way to skin a cat. (David Richoux)
> 12. Re: Bolero (John Farrell)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 22:47:56 -0700
> From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] LA Area Jazz Meet 7/11/04
> To: <TCASHWIGG at aol.com>, <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <00dc01c46578$8bb4f670$6601a8c0 at jazzman>
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> Tom;
>
> At most of the Southern California Jazz Societies, musicians who
> show up to
> play (outside of the scheduled band or musicians) are considered
> guests and
> can enjoy the music free of charge. The musicians who do show up are
> assembled into sets and play for the audience. Since no one knows
> who's
> going to show it's difficult to advertise their names. However, each
> musician who plays is announced.
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TCASHWIGG at aol.com>
> To: <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] LA Area Jazz Meet 7/11/04
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/8/04 8:14:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > bettylynch at verizon.net writes:
> >
> > > The feature attraction is the wonderful Coyote Hills Jazz Band
> with
> Warren
> > > Hildebrand. Come and enjoy this lucky 7/11 day. Guest
> musicians
> perform
> > > the other sets.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That's wonderful, but I'll bet those Guest Musicians would
> appreciate
> having
> > their names listed as well so that they might get some
> compensation and
> > promotion for their contributions to the organization.
> >
> > If you have generous musicians donating their time to your society
> and
> > organization to help make it a successful event, the least you
> could and
> should do
> > is to mention their names and Spell them correctly so that some
> othe
> > organization might actually start to recognize them and might even
> pay
> them for being a
> > GUEST musician.
> >
> > Any Musician is only as Good a His or her last Gig, we are all
> supposed
> to
> > be working together for the good of OKOM and our respective
> interests, it
> is
> > high time the societies and promoters and musicians start to
> understand
> the
> > little things that make a world of difference to both sides of the
> proposition.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tom Wiggins
> > Saint Gabriel's Celestial Brass Band
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:02:19 -0700
> From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Sacramento, Too Large?
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <012501c4657a$4c356640$3600a8c0 at bobringwald>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sorry, I did it again. Forgot to change the address to DJML.
>
> Below is what I accidentally sent direct to Tom Wiggins.
>
> Subject: Re: Sacramento, Too Large?
>
>
> > Regarding the questionnaire that Site managers fill out for each
> set at
> the
> > Sacramento Jazz Jubilee, I said:
> >
> > > The questionnaire that the Site Managers fill out on each band
> at the
> > Jubilee, is mainly for attendance. Since the Jubilee is so big, no
> one can
> > get around to see every band & every set. Thus the report on each
> set.
> >
> > If a band has a couple poorly attended sets, but say, 8 good ones,
> then
> you
> > can pretty well figure that they were well received & maybe the
> sets were
> > out of the way, or early or too late.
> >
> > However, if the band reports say that 8 out of 10 sets were poorly
> attended,
> > then you can judge accordingly.
> >
> >
> > Tom Wiggins replied:
> >
> > > With all respect Bob I beg to differ with you.
> >
> > That is one of the Jubilee's major problems, too many bands trying
> to play
> > too many sets all against and in competition with each other in
> too many
> > venues.
> > Thus if the ticket buyers want to see any specific Headline act,
> then it
> > stands to reason that the up and coming acts are going to suffer in
> > attendance at
> > some if not all their performance sets.
> >
> > Not to mention the problems with travel logistics of the fans
> trying to
> get
> > from set to set in time to see certain acts but have to pass
> because they
> > need
> > to get back to the other side of the festival to see another
> headline act
> > that
> > they will miss if they go across town to see the act that now has
> no
> > audience
> > to play to. This is not the bands fault that they have no
> audience, it is
> a
> > scheduling problem by the Festival that they have absolutely no
> control
> over
> > or say so or input at all.
> >
> >
> > BR- Tom, to a certain extent your comments have a bit of truth to
> them.
> > But, There are a lot of festivals around the country, especially
> the West
> > Coast. If someone wants a small festival, there are plenty to
> attend.
> They
> > do not have to attend Sacramento.
> >
> > Sacramento is something different. It is a "happening". Like
> having a
> > triple decker banana split with chocolate syrup, nuts & whipped
> cream. A
> > glutteny of bands.
> >
> > So what if you can't see them all. Big deal. Instead of having a
> festival
> > with 15 bands & being able to see 10 out of the 15, you have a
> festival
> with
> > 130 bands. So, you see 10 out of 130. Actually, with the
> festival being
> 4
> > days, you can certainly see more than 10 of them.
> >
> > But, the point is, something for everyone. A real "happening."
> >
> >
> > Tom continues:
> >
> > > I have personally experienced this problem at Jubilee just as an
> attendee
> > and
> > not as a performer. You guys like to say that you can stay in one
> location
> > and the festival will come to you, That is not the way fans do
> things for
> > the
> > most part, they will try to go see every set of their favorite
> bands
> rather
> > than sit and wait to see who is going to show up next set on the
> stage
> they
> > happen to be sitting in front of.
> >
> >
> > BR- If the fan decides to chase all over town, that is the fan's
> progative.
> > But, we have what we refer to as "Jazz Centers". For instance, at
> Cal
> EXPO,
> > within very short walking distance, there might be 7 venues. You
> can get
> to
> > any one of these 7 venues in 3 minutes walking time. Each band
> plays one
> > hour & there is a 1/2 hour break for everyone to get a drink,
> something to
> > eat, go to the restroom & go to another venue, if they wish.
> >
> > That one "Jazz Center" is as big as most festivals, except that a
> large
> > number of 130 bands will eventually come through the area. In a
> small
> > festival with 7 venues, you might have 15 or 20 bands come through
> the
> area.
> >
> > Likewise for Old Sacramento.
> >
> > The Red Lion has maybe 4 venues.
> >
> > Other Jazz Centers have several venues also.
> >
> >
> > Tom continues:
> >
> > You would serve them better by programming each stage with the
> same or
> > similar types of groups and music for specific hours of the day and
> rotating
> > the
> > audience rather than rotating the bands all over town wearing them
> out and
> > stressing them out and then expecting them to get up and deliver a
> great
> > show in the
> > Sacramento Heat.
> >
> >
> > BR- To a certain extent, we do that. For instance, there are 3
> venues
> that
> > feature strictly Traditional bands. The Red Lion features mostly
> All-Stars.
> >
> > Other venues tend to feature special types of music, such as often,
> Freeway
> > Gardens has Zydico. There is another strictly Blues site.
> >
> > The Crest Theater features more of a show atmosphere. And so on.
> >
> > Besides, if a band does not want to come to perform at Sacramento,
> no one
> is
> > forcing them. There is a waiting list of somewhere around 900
> bands
> waiting
> > to be invited. Not very many turn us down.
> >
> >
> > Tom continues:
> >
> > If you are going to diversify your music and attract a diverse
> audience
> then
> > you should structure the stages to cater to those specific
> audiences, keep
> > them generally in one area and not wasting their time riding back
> and
> forth
> > or
> > walking back and forth very far to see the kind of music they paid
> to come
> > and
> > see and hear. I guarantee you the guys who paid to come and see
> the
> Zydeco
> > bands are not about to go stand in line for an hour to catch a bus
> to go
> to
> > Cal
> > Expo to hear a two beat Dixieland Band, then waste another hour
> trying to
> > get
> > back to Old town to hear Sister Swing, and miss half the show or
> maybe not
> > even be able to get in because the venue is full before they can
> get
> there.
> >
> >
> > BR- See above.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been there and done that more than once in one festival.
> >
> > About the only other thing that is reported on is if the band uses
> profanity
> > or is rude to the audience. Also, if they start late or end early.
> >
> > This can be avoided mostly by the Festival being responsible to
> transport
> > the
> > bands to and from each performance in a timely manner and not
> leave the
> > musicians to fend for themselves trying to get through 50,000
> people and
> get
> > transportation to the next set in time to start on time. This can
> usually
> > be done
> > expediently by the use of Golf Carts donated by a sponsor, unless
> of
> course
> > you want to send them from Old town to the Red Lion Hotel between
> sets.
> > They
> > should be kept in one general area for performances where they can
> easily
> > walk
> > or golf cart between sets
> >
> >
> > BR- For the most part, a band will appear twice in a general area.
> For
> > instance, maybe 11:30 AM at a location in Old Sac & then again at
> 2:00 PM
> at
> > another location in Old Sac.
> >
> > Same thing goes for the Red Lion, Cal EXPO, etc. I have no trouble
> getting
> > to my sets & I usually play 12 during the 4 days.
> >
> > And, while a band is waiting for their next set, there is a
> musician's
> > hospitality room where they can get complementary snacks & drinks.
> >
> >
> > About the only other thing that is reported on is if the band uses
> profanity
> > or is rude to the audience. Also, if they start late or end early.
> >
> > These are valid points for sure in evaluating the professionalism
> of any
> > act,
> > however I saw at least one act at the last Jubilee that imbibed a
> bit
> > heavily
> > and used some very colorful language and unless the audience was
> > sufficiently
> > hip and understanding of their show would have been greatly
> offended by
> > their
> > banter with the audience. Fortunately at that show they had their
> audience
> > and all went well. Didn't bother me, but if there had been any
> Baptist
> > Sunday
> > School Teachers in the audience they would have fainted for
> certain.
> >
> >
> > BR- We try to keep the festival "family orientated." Every so
> often we
> get
> > reports, or complaints & that band is never asked back. Three
> things that
> > will cause a band not to be invited back are profanity, rude
> behavior and
> > drunkeness.
> >
> > --Bob
> > Musician member, Board of Directors, Sacramento Traditional Jazz
> Society
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:37:19 EDT
> From: DWSI at aol.com
> Subject: Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <1ef.24fdced6.2e1feb7f at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> RE: ...on the sound track was "Stars & Stripes forever" done as
> a piano solo. I ;ve heard this before and I'm sure it must be
> James P
> Johnson, Don Lambert or Willie the Lion.
>
>
> Harry:
>
> Not necessarily. I have a piano solo recording of The Stars and
> Stripes
> Forever by Eubie Blake done in 1897. By the way, a great CD for
> that kind of
> offbeat ragtime entertainment is A Century Of Ragtime, 1897-1997.
> But wait,
> there's even more good news. You can also do what I did. Get a lead
> sheet (melody
> and chords) and you can do your own piano arrangement. The sheet I
> have shows
> the outline for all the sections in entire piece, including the
> great
> introductory section; putting it into your own arrangement is
> really fairly easy.
> The fakebook I got mine from is: FakeBook of the World's Favorite
> Songs, Hal
> Leonard, 1990. That fake book also has a ton of some great old
> standards. Good
> luck!
>
> Dan (piano fingers) Spink
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:14:25 -0500
> From: "AL LEVY" <jazz_man at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes Piano Solo
> To: <DWSI at aol.com>, <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <011f01c465bf$0b876cc0$ef15e604 at musicbox>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Don't forget the most famous:
> Vladimir Horowitz
> (I may have spelled his first name wrong)
>
> Cheers,
> Al
> Pianist, Composer, Arranger, Conductor, Teacher and Music Prep.
> Please visit me at
> http://alevy.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:25:48 -0500
> From: "Norman Vickers" <nvickers1 at cox.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Trad event on Steamboat Natchez held
> Wednesday July 7
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <DOEBJPCEMCFKPNHKLFHNOEBEEJAA.nvickers1 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Listmates:
>
> I just returned from what is hoped to be the first annual trad event
> on the
> Steamboat Natchez in New Orleans.
> On Wed. 7-8 four bands gathered for an evening performance:
>
> Duke Heitger Steamboat Stompers
> Banu Gibson and New Orleans Hot Jazz
> Jim Cullum Jazz Band
> Dukes of Dixieland
>
> Natchez did not cruise that night, but remained tied up at the dock.
> ( There
> is some musical advantage not to cruise--avoid the noise and
> vibration of
> the motors and paddlewheel.)
>
> Bands alternated with one band playing on upper deck and another
> playing on
> the middle deck. The event went from 5:30-10:30.
>
> Jim Cullum's band was in town with a group of travelers scheduled
> for their
> trip on one of the Delta Queen Riverboats. I saw friends Linda and
> Mike
> Foley of Sacramento Traditional Jazz Society. There were about
> eight of us
> from the Jazz Society of Pensacola who came over for that event.
>
> There were drinks available, of course, and an adequate and
> reasonably
> priced buffet available.
>
> Cullum's band included-cornetist leader Jim Cullum, pianist Jim
> Turner,
> clarinetist Ron Hockett, bassist Don Mopsick,trombonist Kenny Rupp,
> banjoist/tenor guitarist Howard Elkins, and a young hot drummer Mike
> Waskiewicz.
>
> Vocalist-tenor guitarist Banu Gibson's band included visiting
> pianist John
> Sheridan, trumpeter Connie Jones, trombonist Rick Trolsen, bassist
> James
> Singleton and drummer Jeff Juliano. Banu's husband Buzzy Podewell
> and New
> Orleans bassist Tom Saunders joined Banu on her last set.
>
> The Dukes of Dixieland, with their " gig when they don't have an
> out-of-town
> gig" on the Natchez since 1991, perform nightly on the steamboat.
> The Dukes
> personnel are: leader-drummer-vocalist Richard Taylor,trombonist Ben
> Smith,
> pianist Scott Obenschain, clarinetist Earl Bonie, bassist Everett
> Link and
> trumpeter Michael Fulton.
>
> Cornetist Duke Heitger, in my view the handsomest white jazz guy
> currently
> performing, had as personnel for his Steamboat Stompers, clarinetist
> and
> soprano saxophonist Evan Christopher, pianist Steve Pistorius,
> bassist Kerry
> Lewis and guitarist John Parker. Cullum's drummer Mike Waskiewicz
> joined the
> Steamboat Stompers for the last set. The Steamboat Stompers perform
> regularly on the day cruises of the Natchez.
>
> New Orleans bassist and radio personality Tom Saunders held forth in
> the
> Magnolia Suite with CD sales including some rare jazz recordings he
> had
> remastered. Tom is well known for his popular Traditional Jazz
> Radio show
> which aired on New Orleans Community Radio Station WWOZ for 13 years.
>
> Overall, it was a wonderful evening of great music, reunion with
> friends,
> good food and an ideal setting. Think of it, twilight with the
> activity of
> the French Quarter on one side and the Mississippi river traffic and
> lights
> along the harbor on the other side. I think I'll skip Heaven, and
> just go to
> New Orleans!
>
> In conversation with Heitger a couple of days after the event, he
> said that
> the decision for a repeat of this event would be made after
> conference with
> the steamboat company. From a personal point of view, I certainly
> hope
> there is a repeat.
>
> For those of you who missed the event, the Steamboat Natchez cruises
> at
> 11:30 am and 2:30 p.m and the two-hour dinner/jazz cruise departs
> at 7:00
> p.m. from the wharf at Jax Brewery in the French Quarter. Heitger's
> Steamboat Stompers perform for the day cruises and the Dukes of
> Dixieland
> for the dinner/jazz cruise. At least on any cruise, you get a Duke!
>
> Contact : New Orleans Steamboat Company, #2 Canal St., Ste 2500, New
> Orleans, LA 70130-1587. Phones 504-586-8777 or 1-800-233-2628;
> www.NewOrleansSteamboat.com
>
> Norman Vickers
> Jazz Society of Pensacola, Inc.
>
> --End--
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:14:52 -0700
> From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
> Subject: Re: Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <019d01c465c7$7ccb1dc0$3600a8c0 at bobringwald>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DWSI at aol.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 5:37 AM
> Subject: Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
>
>
> > RE: ...on the sound track was "Stars & Stripes forever" done as
> > a piano solo. I ;ve heard this before and I'm sure it must be
> James P
> > Johnson, Don Lambert or Willie the Lion.
> >
> >
> > Harry:
> >
> > Not necessarily. I have a piano solo recording of The Stars and
> Stripes
> > Forever by Eubie Blake done in 1897.
>
>
> BR- I doubt if it was recorded in 1897.
>
>
> By the way, a great CD for that kind of
> > offbeat ragtime entertainment is A Century Of Ragtime, 1897-1997.
> But
> wait,
> > there's even more good news. You can also do what I did. Get a
> lead sheet
> (melody
> > and chords) and you can do your own piano arrangement. The sheet
> I have
> shows
> > the outline for all the sections in entire piece, including the
> great
> > introductory section; putting it into your own arrangement is
> really
> fairly easy.
> > The fakebook I got mine from is: FakeBook of the World's Favorite
> Songs,
> Hal
> > Leonard, 1990. That fake book also has a ton of some great old
> standards.
> Good
> > luck!
> >
> > Dan (piano fingers) Spink
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dixielandjazz mailing list
> > Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:13:31 -0500
> From: "Patrick Cooke" <patcooke at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>, "Harry Epp"
> <heppkat at juno.com>
> Message-ID: <005501c465c7$4b8fa960$722b6044 at patrick39x02vy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Harry...
>
> Nest time you hear a tune you like in a movie, check the closing
> credits
> after the movie. All the tunes in the movie are listed along with
> names of
> composer, publisher, and performer(s).
> Of course, some of the movie channels are now squeezing the
> credits into
> an unreadable small panel while they use the larger part of the
> screen for a
> promo of some kind. This is a vile practice, and I think is against
> the
> rules of the Actors guild, and probably ASCAP, BMI and who knows who
> else.
> An e-mail campaign to these organizations might bring some results.
> Pat Cooke
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Epp" <heppkat at juno.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:30 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Stars & Stripes
>
>
> > Hi Listmates:
> > I saw the movie "1,000 clowns " on showtime the other day and on
> the
> > sound track was "Stars & Stripes forever" done as
> > a piano solo. I ;ve heard this before and I'm sure it must be
> James P
> > Johnson, Don Lambert or Willie the Lion.
> >
> > I would really like a copy of this. Can anyone help me out.
> >
> > TIA
> > Harry Epp
> > Muskat Ramblers
> > Ft Lauderdale Fl
> >
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>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 11:21:53 -0400
> From: Stephen Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] There is more than one way to skin a cat.
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <40EEB810.88E82464 at earthlink.net>
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>
> What is it we say about "The Saints" or "Bill Bailey"? How about
> this
> album? Yes, OKOM, note the reference to Benny Goodman"s and Nat
> Shilkret's versions in the next to last paragraph. :-) VBG.
>
> July 4, 2004 - NY Times
>
> HIGH NOTES By JAMES R. OESTREICH
>
> One Album, 10 `Boleros' (but No Bo Derek)
>
> By JAMES R. OESTREICH
>
> In the more innocent days of my college years, I was appalled to
> hear
> of a cruel and unusual hazing that a fraternity had inflicted on its
> pledges. They were confined to a cabin for a weekend and made to
> listen
> to Ravel's "Bolero" over and over, endlessly.
>
> Imagine that sinuous and haunting melody, which keeps turning back on
> itself, burrowing ever deeper into your psyche. And to help you
> imagine,
> RCA Victor has just released "Ravel's Greatest Hit: The Ultimate
> `Bolero,' " a reissue CD with no fewer than 10 versions of the piece,
> one after another.
>
> Here, at least, there is some variety. Only three tracks offer
> Ravel's
> orchestration, and only two of those are performed complete. (Charles
> Munch conducts the Boston Symphony; Eduardo Mata, the Dallas
> Symphony;
> and in an abridgment, Arthur Fiedler, the Boston Pops).
>
> Since that brilliant orchestration, with its constantly shifting
> colors,
> is the very essence of the piece, the severe abridgments seem well
> advised in arrangements for piano by Morton Gould and for two pianos
> by
> Jacques Fray and Mario Braggiotti. And although Isao Tomita commands
> a
> suitable array of sonorities on his synthesizer, he takes cuts too —
> yet
> still outstays his welcome with pointless noodling after Ravel's
> crunching conclusion.
>
> The Canadian Brass and the percussionist Evelyn Glennie are also
> featured. But the two kickiest versions are by Benny Goodman and his
> orchestra — in his jazz, not classical, mode — and Nat Shilkret and
> his
> band, in a fox-trot reimagination.
>
> At a time when the established labels wearily fall back on cheap and
> easy reissues, it is nice to find an occasional sign of life. The
> people
> at RCA, which released "Pachelbel's Greatest Hit" in 1991, have
> retained
> at least a mild sense of humor.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:03:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Fr M J (Mike) Logsdon" <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] There is more than one way to skin a
> cat.
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID:
> <25414639.1089389001611.JavaMail.root at grover.psp.pas.earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Somehow, though "kickier," I'd think the Shilkret version would be
> more effective as a hazing tool...,
>
> --
> Etc,
>
> Fr M J "Mike" Logsdon
> North American Old Roman Catholic Church (Utrecht Succession)
> http://www.naorc.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:45:18 EDT
> From: TCASHWIGG at aol.com
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Guest Musicians redux
> To: sbrager at socal.rr.com, Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Message-ID: <6b.2dd1a8a7.2e20259e at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> In a message dated 7/8/04 10:49:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sbrager at socal.rr.com writes:
>
> > Tom;
> >
> > At most of the Southern California Jazz Societies, musicians who
> show up to
> > play (outside of the scheduled band or musicians) are considered
> guests and
> > can enjoy the music free of charge. The musicians who do show up
> are
> > assembled into sets and play for the audience. Since no one knows
> who's
> > going to show it's difficult to advertise their names. However,
> each
> > musician who plays is announced.
> >
> > Stan
> > Stan Brager
> >
> >
>
> Thanks Stan:
>
> I guess I should have added another line to my comment, What I meant
> to refer
> to was the musicians who are often special guests performers but do
> not get
> adequate recognition, and if not promoted have no real draw power
> for the event
> or the artist.
>
> Sometimes I shoot off on a subject in a hurry and get my foot in my
> mouth
> trying to be helpful.
>
> Not mad at anybody, and don't want them mad at me, I just think
> promotion of
> music and the musicians all the time since that has been my
> exclusive
> business for forty years, and so often it is overlooked by many well
> meaning folks in
> our business.
>
> The artist has to be on the constant lookout for any and all
> publicity and
> promotional value to keep their name and image in front of the very
> fickle
> public in an every rapidly changing world and society, lest one fall
> thru the
> cracks and off the musical planet.
>
> That is why guys like Paul Newman have side businesses to keep his
> name and
> picture in front of the world in Supermarkets and their advertising
> supplements weekly inbetween his movie releases. Brilliant
> marketing to say the least.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:59:07 -0700
> From: David Richoux <tubaman at batnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] There is more than one way to skin a
> cat.
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <AC757864-D1D1-11D8-B094-000A956ED8E0 at batnet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> Frank Zappa's band did a great version of Ravel's Bolero in the late
> 1980s - it was on the CD "The Best Band You Never Heard in Your
> Life."
> Very true to the original composition!
>
> According to the internet, the "most recorded song" is "Yesterday"
> written by the Beatles. "Stardust" would have to be right up there
> near
> the top.
>
> But I think the series of recordings put out by Rhino Records (and
> co-produced by KFJC ) with many versions of "Louie Louie" is the
> ultimate Mass Quantity Recording. Back in 1983 there was a friendly
> competition between KFJC and KALX (UC Berkeley) as to who could play
> the most versions of that song - KFJC finally won with a 3 day, 900+
> version marathon that included live in-studio performances by
> Richard
> Berry and many groups that made that song famous (or infamous ;-)
> One
> of the KFJC staff from that "Maximum Louie Louie" has made it his
> life's work to totally document the entire Louie Louie history - you
> can see what Eric Predoehl has done so far at
> http://www.louielouie.net/
>
> Are there any OKOM versions? Pete Fountain did it on his 1966 LP,
> I've
> Got You Under My Skin , Coral Records CRL 757488, Ian Whitcomb did
> it
> back when he was a rock-n-roller and I see one listing for the
> "Crescent City Stompers" from the mid 1970's.
> There are unreleased versions by "Django Reinhardt Memorial
> Ensemble"
> and "The Mossville Green Jazz Band."
> Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five did a song in 1938 called "Run
> Joe"
> that is in some ways very similar to Louie Louie.
>
>
> Anyway, if your band has recorded a version - let Eric know (and
> send
> him a copy for his database!)
>
> Dave Richoux
>
>
> Jul 9, 2004, at 8:21 AM, Stephen Barbone wrote:
>
> > What is it we say about "The Saints" or "Bill Bailey"? How about
> this
> > album? Yes, OKOM, note the reference to Benny Goodman"s and Nat
> > Shilkret's versions in the next to last paragraph. :-) VBG.
> >
> > July 4, 2004 - NY Times
> >
> > HIGH NOTES By JAMES R. OESTREICH
> >
> > One Album, 10 `Boleros' (but No Bo Derek)
> >
> > By JAMES R. OESTREICH
> >
> > In the more innocent days of my college years, I was appalled
> to
> > hear
> > of a cruel and unusual hazing that a fraternity had inflicted on
> its
> > pledges. They were confined to a cabin for a weekend and made to
> listen
> > to Ravel's "Bolero" over and over, endlessly.
> >
> > Imagine that sinuous and haunting melody, which keeps turning back
> on
> > itself, burrowing ever deeper into your psyche. And to help you
> > imagine,
> > RCA Victor has just released "Ravel's Greatest Hit: The Ultimate
> > `Bolero,' " a reissue CD with no fewer than 10 versions of the
> piece,
> > one after another.
> >
> > Here, at least, there is some variety. Only three tracks offer
> Ravel's
> > orchestration, and only two of those are performed complete.
> (Charles
> > Munch conducts the Boston Symphony; Eduardo Mata, the Dallas
> Symphony;
> > and in an abridgment, Arthur Fiedler, the Boston Pops).
> >
> > Since that brilliant orchestration, with its constantly shifting
> > colors,
> > is the very essence of the piece, the severe abridgments seem well
> > advised in arrangements for piano by Morton Gould and for two
> pianos by
> > Jacques Fray and Mario Braggiotti. And although Isao Tomita
> commands a
> > suitable array of sonorities on his synthesizer, he takes cuts too
> —
> > yet
> > still outstays his welcome with pointless noodling after Ravel's
> > crunching conclusion.
> >
> > The Canadian Brass and the percussionist Evelyn Glennie are also
> > featured. But the two kickiest versions are by Benny Goodman and
> his
> > orchestra — in his jazz, not classical, mode — and Nat Shilkret
> and his
> > band, in a fox-trot reimagination.
> >
> > At a time when the established labels wearily fall back on cheap
> and
> > easy reissues, it is nice to find an occasional sign of life. The
> > people
> > at RCA, which released "Pachelbel's Greatest Hit" in 1991, have
> > retained
> > at least a mild sense of humor.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:41:23 +0100
> From: "John Farrell" <stridepiano at tesco.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Bolero
> To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Message-ID: <011b01c465e4$758efaf0$85c8fc3e at yourcyfkdpcoe0>
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>
> I once heard an Italian Rock-Indie band - Giuseppe's Carbonaro
> Syncopatorios - play a tango version of this tune which they called
> "Ravel's
> Spag Bolero". At the final key-change climax a large bowl of
> steaming
> spaghetti was emptied into the bell of the sousaphone just as the
> unfortunate player hit his "High Society" clarinet solo quote. The
> things
> some bands do for money (take note of this Barbone and Wiggins - it
> could be
> a winner for you!)
>
> And now for my third (because the wife isn't looking) single malt -
> cheers
> to you all.
>
> John Farrell
> http://homepages.tesco.net/~stridepiano/midifiles.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Richoux" <tubaman at batnet.com>
> To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] There is more than one way to skin a
> cat.
>
>
> Frank Zappa's band did a great version of Ravel's Bolero in the late
> 1980s - it was on the CD "The Best Band You Never Heard in Your
> Life."
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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