[Dixielandjazz] Recording Jazz

Robert S. Ringwald ringwald at calweb.com
Tue Jan 27 18:36:17 PST 2004


Jim, you hit the nail right on the head.  You can come over here & record us
or run sound anytime.

Bob
mr.wonderful at ringwald.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Kashishian" <kash at ran.es>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Recording Jazz


> If it is a 9 foot grand, even the drummer ends up 15 feet away.
> Bob
> mr.wonderful at ringwald.com
>
>
> Bob, that is a long standing argument I have with our pianist, who
> insists on only having his piano in his monitor on a large stage.  I
> have tried to point out that there can easily more than a  second of
> delay in the live sound from the other guys in the band.  If he doesn't
> have them in his monitor, then he is setting his own tempo on his own.
>
> I can demonstrate, using a digital delay on a stereo signal in the
> studio, that you can actually hear a difference in the two sides when
> even a 26 milisecond delay is applied to one leg.  Precisely, the old
> "double-up the voice" trick using the Eventide delay (1970's) was
> applying 26mS and 56mS, one delay to each leg.  Pull that up on a fader
> mixed with the non-delayed sound, and you have a nice, fat/full voice!
> Miliseconds can be pleasant, seconds can be disastrous!
>
>  So, it shouldn't be too hard to understand that a drummer's sound,
> which someone else on the stage might hear after it has bounced off the
> top of the stage (which can be 20 - 50 ft up, easily)......and out to
> the audience & back, etc., may not coincide with what the drummer hears
> where he is.
>
> Without a full monitor mix, you can wander around the stage and you very
> well may have to decide who's rhythm you wish to stay with.
>
> I't amazing that this is beyond the understanding of some people.
>
> Jim
>
>
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