[Dixielandjazz] Re:WHERE DO WE DRAW THE OKOM LINE?

[Robert S. Ringwald]

I love Artie Shaw.  Also, the original Brewbeck Quartet, Rob McConnel,
George Shearing, Lu Watters, Turk Murphy & the Boondockers.

--Bob
robert at ringwald.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Patrick Cooke" <patcooke at cox.net>
To: "Jon Stutler" <jon at razzmajazz.com>; <DWSI at aol.com>;
<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re:WHERE DO WE DRAW THE OKOM LINE?


> Draw the line????  Why does there have to be a line?  Here we go
again...the
> classifiers, pigeon holers and the "knowledgeable" experts will all now
come
> out and give us their version of where "the lines" are drawn....Each of
them
> totally agreeing with each other....yeah, right.
>        Of course, none of us discriminating jazz lovers want to admit to
> liking something that was deemed to be something other than the "expert's"
> idea of true jazz.
>         A question:....If you really liked Artie Shaw, and the
> "knowledgeable experts" all agreed that true jazz did not include Artie
> Shaw, would you stop liking Artie Shaw, or just stop admitting that you
like
> him??
>         Pat Cooke
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Stutler" <jon at razzmajazz.com>
> To: <DWSI at aol.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:19 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Re:WHERE DO WE DRAW THE OKOM LINE?
>
>
> Try this for size:  "original, traditional jazz includes most jazz models
> prior to the big band era".  I await the disagreement!  :)
>
> Jon
>
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> (TO LISTMATES & OKOM LOVERS. We're  always complaining about "modern"
> (jazz
> (overshadowing our  beloved "traditional" jazz and I sing loudly in this
> chorus.
> (But now I stop  and wonder: Where do we draw the line between them? By
> year?
> (If
> (so, what year?  By some artist? If so which one? For example, would you
say
> (traditional jazz  includes Artie Shaw, or Miles Davis, or Charlie Parker?
> I'd
> (really like to know  where my knowledgeable friends would draw the line
> between
> (traditional (OKOM)  and whatever else they now call jazz.For my own
sanity.
> (
> (Dan (piano fingers)  Spink
> (
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