[Dixielandjazz] Re: Rifle Rangers/1919 Rag

Mike Durham mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 28 00:01:52 PST 2003

Bill, don, everone: having downloaded the Rifle Rangers music from Dick 
Baker, I agree the first two themes are totally different from the tune we 
know as 1919 Rag/March, but the trio strain is very similar. But then, there 
are several old tunes with a similar trio melody/chord sequence (Buddy's 
Habit and Chattanooga Stomp spring to mind) so the opportunities for 
confusion were probably always high. This of course leaves us with the 
question of who wrote 1919! Anybody got any clues??

Mike D.

>From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
>To: Don Mopsick <mophandl at landing.com>,DJML 
><dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re:  Rifle Rangers/1919 Rag
>Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:33:09 +1100
>Dear Don,
>I have kept out of this thread, as I had nothing to add.
>I tried to track it all down years ago, without any success.
>Have just checked aurally the 3 issued versions of Kid Ory's '1919
>Rag/March' against his version of 'Rifle Rangers'.
>All the same tune.
>Its sounds as if it may be an old (and incorrect) New Orleans myth that
>'1919 = Rifle Rangers'.
>Hopefully you will get to the core of it.
>Dick Baker's post with the music was a great help too, although my reading
>skills have dimmed a lot since I retired from the Williamstown City Brass
>Band in 1953.
>I have given a copy of this music to my jazz-brother, cltist John 'Darkie'
>McCarthy (he lives up the road) for comment.
>Very kind regards,
>PS: I know (from the LP sleeves) that Lu and Turk said that Bunk taught 
>the '1919' tune. It seems more logical to me that it was the Kid.
>Just a thought, as they also knew him quite well from the 1940s on.
>Bunk never (to my knowledge) played or recorded '1919'.
>Ory did.
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