[Dixielandjazz] ODJB

[Mike Durham]

Tom: far from chastisement, British and European audiences are DESPERATE to 
see and hearr anyone playing OKOM who is  black, and especially young and 
black. We are desperately keen to see any African-Americans returning to the 
music their forefathers created. So three cheers for Nicholas Peyton and all 
others like him, even two and a half cheers for Wynton Marsalis. In fact, we 
are so keen on this, we will make all sorts of allowances: at a Dutch jazz 
festival I attended, there was a black piano player/blues singer (who shall 
be nameless) who was playing in one key with the right hand, another with 
the left, and singing in a third. I'm not sure if he was just too old to 
play anymore, or very drunk, or just having a laugh at all the earnest white 
folks in the audience (when I joined in the joke and started laughing, I was 
reprimanded by the people around me for displaying such levity in the 
presence of a 'folk genius'). In all seriousness, though, Tom, you should 
have no trouble at all bringing black musicians to Europe, and more power to 
your elbow in encouraging this.

Mike D.

>From: Adaywayne at aol.com
>To: TCASHWIGG at aol.com, dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] ODJB
>Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:35:09 EST
>
>In a message dated 11/17/03 2:22:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>TCASHWIGG at aol.com writes:
>Seldom do we disagree, Steve, but to my ears, I hear differences in Black
>American Jazz and Blues players all the time and can usuallly tell a Black
>Band
>when I hear it on the radio without knowing who they are or seeing them.   
>I
>guess it comes from working with them for so many years and being able to
>hear
>and feel their musical accents.
>
>I have to believe you , of course, but I am somewhat astonished!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    I have in the past been chastised for bringing Black American Blues
>and Jazz singers to festivals with White players or even using European 
>bands
>to back them.
>
>Chastised by whom, Tom? I find it hard to believe that kind of attitude
>amongst any British jazz fans I know now or 50 years ago.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>But I hear a difference int he music almost immediately, unless the Black
>musicians are trying desperately to sound White, as many of them have done
>thinking it was necessary to get employment
>
>I dare say you can take any number of Black Musicians and have them play 
>with
>a white band and they will not sound Black, but take those same musicians 
>and
>put them into an all Black Band hired to play for a Black audience and you
>will hear a totally different sound.
>
>Many Black American musicians have been re-trained to play music the way 
>they
>think White folks want it to sound, but what they missed in most cases is
>that the White folks really want to hear it played the way they play it for
>Black
>audiences.  At least in my experiences and opinion.
>
>Tom, tell me you are kidding! How on earth does a black musician play like 
>a
>white one? What on earth is the difference? Do you have any examples of 
>what
>you have just asserted?
>
>Arn (scratching head)
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