[Dixielandjazz] trumpet player's education

Burt Wilson futurecon at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 14 08:34:27 PST 2003


It was Jelly Roll MOrton who said "Always keeps the melody going someplace"
in his Library of Congress recordings.
Burt Wilson


> [Original Message]
> From: Bob Romans <cellblk7 at comcast.net>
> To: Mike Durham <mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>; <bbiffle at swcp.com>;
<ringwald at calweb.com>; <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>;
<jbeebe at centurytel.net>
> Date: 11/14/03 5:56:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] trumpet player's education
>
>
> I heard once that King Oliver said that to Satchmo when he first joined
him
> in Chicago (According to Satch!)
> Bob Romans
>
> > Bill, another piece of advice that has served me well over the years as
a
> > trumpet player is 'always keep the melody going somewhere'. It's so long
> ago
> > I read or heard this, that I have forgotten who said it (probably Jelly
> Roll
> > Morton). Doesn't mean just play the tune, but it does mean that the
> trumpet
> > as lead intrument has to keep in touch with the melody, otherwise it
makes
> > life very difficult for clarinet and trombone to provide counterpoint
and
> > harmony. Also, the presence of melody (along with a danceable rhythm) is
> > what distinguishes OKOM from later jazz styles. Just a thought.....
> >
> > Mike D.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bill Biffle" <bbiffle at swcp.com>
> > >To: "Robert S. Ringwald" <ringwald at calweb.com>,   "DJML"
> > ><dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,   "Jim Beebe" <jbeebe at centurytel.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] trumpet player's education
> > >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:59:30 -0700
> > >
> > >One of the wonders of life is that advice can be had - for free - in
this
> > >forum from such talented and experienced players as Bob Ringwald and
Jim
> > >Beebe.   Thanks to you both!
> > >
> > >Bob, a very good player told me once that, while improvising, one
should
> > >try
> > >to "express a thought.  Complete it if you can.  Then give your
audience
> > >time to reflect on it." Excellent advice, it seems to me, on how to
play
> > >fewer notes that mean more.  (with my technical skills - or lack
> thereof -
> > >this is especially welcome help!  :-)})
> > >
> > >For the record, of the players I mentioned - leaving Armstrong aside
cuz
> > >he's in a class by himself - Ruby Braff is my current favorite.  One of
> the
> > >most musical players I know.
> > >
> > >I remember Bobby Hackett from the Gleason recordings in the 50s.  I
loved
> > >them in high school and found them invaluable when impressing a girl
with
> > >my
> > >sophistication!  I'm looking forward to hearing him play more jazz. 
Come
> > >on, UPS!
> > >
> > >Thanks, again, for all the wonderful help.
> > >
> > >Bill Biffle, Leader & Trumpet
> > >The Duke City Jazz Band
> > >http://www.billbiffle.com/DCJB.htm
> > >Albuquerque, NM USA
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <ringwald at calweb.com>
> > >To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 9:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] trumpet player's education
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bill Biffle bbiffle at swcp.com
> > > >
> > > > Wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Consensus is to listen to more Bobby Hackett.  I've ordered some
CDs
> > >just
> > > > now from Worlds Records.
> > > >
> > > > (Snip)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hackett was a wonderful player, a one of a kind.
> > > >
> > > > When listening to him, notice that he plays a lot of notes.  Most
tpt
> > > > players who do this end up playing garbage--Better to leave holes
like
> > > > Louis.
> > > >
> > > > However, Hackett had such a command of chords & chord patterns & had
> > >such
> > > > exquisite taste, that he can pull it off, & pull it off beautifully.
> > > >
> > > > In your playing, don't try to fill up all the spaces.  Sometimes the
> > >notes
> > > > you don't play are just as important s the ones you do.  This is
> > >especially
> > > > true when playing in an ensemble situation such as a Dixieland front
> > >line.
> > > > Too many tpt players don't leave any space for the tbn & cl to play.
> > > >
> > > > Just my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > --Bob
> > > > mr.wonderful at ringwald.com
> > > > Placerville, CA  USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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