[Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson
Burt Wilson
futurecon at earthlink.net
Fri May 9 11:52:13 PDT 2003
Speaking of shrines--I could build one for Cutty Cutshall. His ideas were very unusual in my book and he had superb intonation. I love to listen to him with the Condon gang. Did he record with anyone else? I have no idea. Someone, please?
Burt Wilson
trombone
Silver Dollar Jazz Band
-------Original Message-------
From: JimDBB at aol.com
Sent: 05/09/03 09:45 AM
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson
>
> In a message dated 5/8/2003 11:12:14 PM Central Standard Time,
charliehooks at earthlink.net writes:
> Well--excuse me! I had no intention of desecrating a shrine! I had
not
> listened to all those recordings, had never played with Vic before (nor
> since), so that I--ignorant one--was forced to listen to what I actually
> heard on the day I played with him. On that day, whatever way, for
> whatever
> cause I've no idea and no curiosity--on that day, standing on my right
hand
> side where I could not mistake nor can I disremember what I heard: the
guy
> sounded like a garden hose with a semi-attached mouthpiece.
>
> I am willing to take all you guys' word for it: Vic Dickenson is/was
the
> greatest trombone player who ever lived (I'll even forget Jack); but ON
> THAT
> PARTICULAR FUkkIN DAY he sounded like a guy with a garden hose and a
> mouthpiece. You guys weren't there. I was.
>
> so shut my mouf'
> Charlie
Well, at least you own up to it. You have desecrated a 'shrine.'
I can understand that one might not care for Vic Dickenson's sound or
style
but his musicality cannot be denied. For whatever it's worth, Charlie,
Wally Cheske, a fine trumpet player in Milwaukee years back, made an
observation similar to yours. Wally said that Vic sounded like he was
playing a rubber hose.
BTW, in the list of great artists that Vic has recorded with I forgot to
mention Bobby Hackett. Bobby had a five piece group with Vic and three
rhythm that was outstanding. Another fine group was the Saints and
Sinners
that had Vic, Norm Murphy, a wonderful Chicago trumpet player, pianist Red
Richards, Barrett Deems and others. Murphy and Vic together were superb.
Charlie, be careful now of whose shrine you tip over.
Jim Beebe
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