[Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson

Burt Wilson futurecon at earthlink.net
Fri May 9 11:52:13 PDT 2003

Speaking of shrines--I could build one for Cutty Cutshall. His ideas were very unusual in my book and he had superb intonation. I love to listen to him with the Condon gang. Did he record with anyone else? I have no idea. Someone, please?

Burt Wilson
Silver Dollar Jazz Band
-------Original Message-------
From: JimDBB at aol.com
Sent: 05/09/03 09:45 AM
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson

> In a message dated 5/8/2003 11:12:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
charliehooks at earthlink.net writes:

>  Well--excuse me!  I had no intention of desecrating a shrine!  I had
> listened to all those recordings, had never played with Vic before (nor
> since), so that I--ignorant one--was forced to listen to what I actually
> heard on the day I played with him.  On that day, whatever way, for 
> whatever
> cause I've no idea and no curiosity--on that day, standing on my right
> side where I could not mistake nor can I disremember what I heard: the
> sounded like a garden hose with a semi-attached mouthpiece.
>   I am willing to take all you guys' word for it: Vic Dickenson is/was
> greatest trombone player who ever lived (I'll even forget Jack); but ON 
> PARTICULAR FUkkIN DAY he sounded like a guy with a garden hose and a
> mouthpiece.  You guys weren't there.  I was.
> so shut my mouf'
> Charlie

  Well, at least you own up to it.  You have desecrated a 'shrine.'

  I can understand that one might not care for Vic Dickenson's sound or
but his musicality cannot be denied.  For whatever it's worth, Charlie,  
Wally Cheske, a fine trumpet player in Milwaukee years back, made an 
observation similar to yours.  Wally said that Vic sounded like he was 
playing a rubber hose.

  BTW, in the list of great artists that Vic has recorded with I forgot to 

mention Bobby Hackett.  Bobby had a five piece group with Vic and three 
rhythm that was outstanding.  Another fine group was the Saints and
that had Vic, Norm Murphy, a wonderful Chicago trumpet player, pianist Red 

Richards, Barrett Deems and others.  Murphy and Vic together were superb.

 Charlie, be careful now of whose shrine you tip over.

 Jim Beebe

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