[Dixielandjazz] Re: Better Players

john petters jpettjazz at btinternet.com
Tue Jul 15 22:29:16 PDT 2003


Jim said
>   Cripes...do I have to keep repeating myself.  Nobody, dead or alive can
> play Louis Armstrong's classic solos ( say West End Blues or Potato Head
Blues)
> with the same phrasing and timing.  many have tried and all failed.
>
>   You are assuming because one may seem to have the technical facility,
that
> he can easily crack off an Armstrong solo.  But you are overlooking
> Armstrong's masterful phrasing and timing, and that glistening sound.
those things
> cannot be duplicated.  As you said your self, the hard part is the fire,
the
> feeling...these guys don't have it.
>
> If I had 1000K I would place it out there for anyone who could duplicate
an
> Armstrong solo to the satisfaction of a small and select group of judges.
>
Your money would be safe Jim. He was unique. Who was it that said afterr God
comes Louis. It was true then and its true now.

John Petters
Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ
www.traditional-jazz.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <JimDBB at aol.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Better Players


> In a message dated 7/15/2003 9:24:21 AM Central Standard Time,
> barbonestreet at earthlink.net writes:
>
> > Regarding someone's comment that Clifford Brown couldn't play what Louis
> > played, that is just not the case. Clifford
> > had all the ammunition. Excellent tone, great feel/fire, great ideas,
and a
> > great melodic approach. To deny that he
> > outplays Louis is simply a case of tunnel vision, or being stuck in the
> > musical time warp of the 1920s / 30s.
> >
> > Many players today easily replicate exactly what Louis played. I can
recall
> > Peter Ecklund doing so, as well as others.
> > The hard part is the fire, the feeling, and the fact that Louis was THE
> > ORIGINATOR.
> >
> > But then, as powerful as they are, fire and feel are subjective measures
as
> > interpreted by each of us differently. The
> > numbered measurements above are completely objective. If you answer
"yes" to
> > them regarding a player like Brown what
> > possible conclusion can you reach except that Brown plays better?
>
> Jim Beebe
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