[Dixielandjazz] Definitions - was Band dress & festival attendance

[Don Ingle]

A petard was also a metal cone filled with explosives, often attached to a
fortress wall or gate to blow it up.
Another term is that of passing wind.
Ernie Carson's cornet could be described as a petard ready to explode...but
then sometimes it could be old Ern.

Perhaps
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
To: "Dixie Teel" <dixiecup34@earthlink.net>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Definitions - was Band dress & festival
attendance


> See what you started Dr. Hooks?  Petard has several definitions. among
them,
> the definition that Dixie describes below. But in addition, and in the
context
> of the original post, petard is also described as:"hoist with, or by one's
own
> petard" . . .  meaning "destroyed by the very device with which one meant
to
> destroy others"
>
> If you do not have this definition in your dictionary, you need a better
> dictionary in order to understand Charlie and/or William Buckley.
>
> No doubt the eminent Dr. Hooks traces it's usage in the context above,
back to
> William Shakespear's brooding Danish Prince,  Hamlet.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
> Dixie Teel wrote:
>
> > According to my Merriman Webster home and office edition: Petard--N :  a
> > case containing an explosive to break down a door or gate or breach a
wall.
> > I read that to mean Dr. Hooks is a body full of tnt ready to explode.
> > Maybe I'd better find a bigger dictionary or a copy of the OED.  Or have
I
> > missed something?
> > Dixie Teel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
> > To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:10 PM
> > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Definitions - was Band dress & festival
attendance
> >
> > > Charlie Hooks wrote about opinions & posts on the DJML and the
question:
> > >
> > > > Are we hoisted on our own petards?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Actually, quite an apt phrase in this context--but you'll have to get
> > > Bill Gunter to define "petard" for you.  Or look it up in the OED for
> > > yourself.
> > >
> > > helpfully?"
> > >
> > > List mates:
> > >
> > > Don't let Dr. Hooks (Ph.D.) get away with that. If anybody can define
> > > "petard", he and William Buckley can. Not only is he a learned
> > > academician in "English", but also a fine jazz musician and all around
> > > wig. Wig meaning smart person, (New York City slang) not a member of
the
> > > Liberal Party in England, (Whig).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve Barbone
> > >
> > > PS. If he leaves the list., not only will I send all my posts to him
as
> > > Jim Beebe suggested but copies of the entire digest every day under
> > > various return address names so he cannot block them with a spaminator
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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