[Dixielandjazz] Band Dress
Don Ingle
dingle@baldwin-net.com
Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:40:40 -0400
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You missed the point. I asked her if she went to hear the jazz or see =
the fashions. The place, leader, guy with the paycheck dictate the =
uniform du jour...no question. And it is nice to see a band well =
dressed. But if they can't play for s*** then would you still pay to go =
see them? That was the point, still is.
As far as my North Woods dulling my professional dress sensibility, when =
did you ever see me out of the called for uniform? Even when I subbed =
with you in Chicago, I wore the typical Windy City semi-formal outfit -- =
which as a photo shows not all of your sidemen did. And when you played =
wit the JL Reunion Band were we not all of similar dress? Photos say =
yes.
I stand by the point of my remark --is the music less important than the =
dress of the players? I would hope not!
Don -- I can be grumpier than you any day, but then I wrassle bears =
--Ingle-----=20
Original Message -----=20
From: JimDBB@aol.com=20
To: dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Band Dress
In a message dated 7/11/02 4:55:16 AM Central Daylight Time, =
dingle@baldwin-net.com writes:
Nancy:
Let me see if I have you correct...you would not pay to hear a great =
band if
the players were dressed in tee shirts, correct?
This raises a question Nancy -- do you go for the music or for the =
fashions?
If it was truly great jazz, I'd go to hear it if they dressed in
skivvies or thongs. Finding great jazz these days is worth any price =
in
times of rap, rock, and rotten material.
Sure, it's nice to see a band well dressed, but that has nothing to =
do with
how they play. Jackie Coon played around Carmel with Jake Stock's =
Abalone
Stompers for years, and the group dressed like Left Coast Beach =
Bums. But
they played wonderful jazz, entertained the people they played for, =
and
nobody with ears gave a damn about their attire.
One man's opinion
Don Ingle
Don Ingle, I can't believe that you are writing this. Maybe 5 =
years of tuxes at Jazz Ltd and life in the North Woods have dulled your =
professional dress sensibilites. ( just kidding). It is possible to =
dress casually and still look professional. If it is' hot and summer, T =
shirts done decently is ok, in my book. But when you go into a nice club =
in Chicago like, say, Andy's...T shirts, levis and long hair is a turn =
off. When jazz groups started emulating rock groups, that killed off a =
lot of interest in jazz, IMHO. =20
Jim Beebe=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You missed the point. I asked her if =
she went to=20
hear the jazz or see the fashions. The place, leader, guy with the =
paycheck=20
dictate the uniform du jour...no question. And it is nice to see a band =
well=20
dressed. But if they can't play for s*** then would you still pay to go =
see=20
them? That was the point, still is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As far as my North Woods dulling my =
professional=20
dress sensibility, when did you ever see me out of the called for =
uniform? Even=20
when I subbed with you in Chicago, I wore the typical Windy City =
semi-formal=20
outfit -- which as a photo shows not all of your sidemen did. And when =
you=20
played wit the JL Reunion Band were we not all of similar dress? Photos =
say=20
yes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I stand by the point of my remark --is =
the music=20
less important than the dress of the players? I would hope =
not!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Don -- I can be grumpier than you any =
day, but=20
then I wrassle bears --Ingle----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Dixielandjazz] =
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Dress</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message dated=20
7/11/02 4:55:16 AM Central Daylight Time, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dingle@baldwin-net.com">dingle@baldwin-net.com</A>=20
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE=3D"CITE">Nancy:<BR>Let me see if I have you correct...you would =
not pay=20
to hear a great band if<BR>the players were dressed in tee shirts,=20
correct?<BR>This raises a question Nancy -- do you go for the music =
or for=20
the fashions?<BR>If it was truly great jazz, I'd go to hear it if =
they=20
dressed in<BR>skivvies or thongs. Finding great jazz these days is =
worth any=20
price in<BR>times of rap, rock, and rotten material.<BR>Sure, it's =
nice to=20
see a band well dressed, but that has nothing to do with<BR>how they =
play.=20
Jackie Coon played around Carmel with Jake Stock's =
Abalone<BR>Stompers for=20
years, and the group dressed like Left Coast Beach Bums. But<BR>they =
played=20
wonderful jazz, entertained the people they played for, =
and<BR>nobody with=20
ears gave a damn about their attire.<BR>One man's opinion<BR>Don=20
Ingle</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> Don Ingle, I can't believe that =
you are=20
writing this. Maybe 5 years of tuxes at Jazz Ltd and life =
in the=20
North Woods have dulled your professional dress sensibilites. ( just =
kidding).=20
It is possible to dress casually and still look professional. If =
it is'=20
hot and summer, T shirts done decently is ok, in my book. But when you =
go into=20
a nice club in Chicago like, say, Andy's...T shirts, levis and long =
hair is a=20
turn off. When jazz groups started emulating rock groups, that =
killed=20
off a lot of interest in jazz, IMHO. <BR><BR> Jim=20
Beebe</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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