[Dixielandjazz] grandparents in the swing era blues?

Marek Boym marekboym at gmail.com
Thu May 7 12:47:17 EDT 2020


You and your banjos again, Steve.  No matter how many times I have written
- on and off-list - that the banjo is NOT my favourite instrument, and that
I prefer rhythm sections with a guitar rather than a banjo, it doesn't
stick.  Although today I did listen to a group with a banjo, The Clyde
Valley Stompers, I also listened to Buddy Tate and Buck Clayton (sorry,
Steve, no banjos there).
Ah, yes, to the Gillespie 1948 concert at Salle Pleyel in Paris (any idea
who the alto sax soloist is?  I'd go for Howard Johnson, but I don't know
John Brown, so it's difficult to say).
Oh, and yes. I do know who Andrew Homzy is.  And I know that you have been
writing for the Jazz Journal for many years (from inception?).  But that
does not mean that you must be right, and anybody who's opinions are
different is wrong.  Whatever you say, I still cannot stand Freddy Hubbard
or Wayne Shorter of Courtney Pine.  Full stop.
Cheers,
Marek

On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 18:34, Steve Voce <steve.voce84 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> It's very obvious, Marek, that you have no idea who Andrew Homzy is, or of
> his qualifications. Put down that banjo and look him up on the Internet.
> Steve
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:56 AM Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Andrew,
>> We are not the only people who disagree, and shall remain so.
>> Harry James was indeed a master trumpeter, and you are probably right - "
>> Were he alive today, he might have put out a big band hip-hop recording -
>> he was commercial enough.
>> As to basic entertainment - I beg to disagree.  I don't like the "showy"
>> parts of live music, only honest playing.  But I am old enough to realize
>> the necessities of business.  Working musicians cannot depend on jazz fans
>> alone.
>> Your patronizing tone makes me wonder whether you are qualified to offer
>> "any cogent assessment of jazz artists."  To you, if one's opinion differs
>> from yours, one has no idea what he (or she) is talking about.   I have had
>> the MISFORTUNE (yes, indeed!) to hear them all, except the really young
>> ones - Miles, Brubeck, Ornette, Wayne Shorter, Coltrane- you name them.
>> Some - before I had even heard the name of Wild Bill Davison.  It took me
>> quite a few years to separate the grain from the chaff, and whatever you
>> say I am not going back to chaff again!
>> Had it not been for the patronizing tone, I wouldn't have replied to your
>> post - I've been through this so many times before!  Because there is room
>> for all kinds in this wide world.
>> Stay healthy.
>> Cheers,
>> Marek
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 02:02, Andrew Homzy <andrew.homzy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marek,
>>>
>>> While I appreciate your postings here, I find your musical limitations
>>> disqualify you from offering any cogent assessment of jazz artists who
>>> reach beyond rather basic entertainment.
>>>
>>> Harry James was a master trumpeter and capable of a wide range of
>>> artistic expression.
>>>
>>> His massive discography speaks volumes to his scope.Were he alive today,
>>> he might have put out a big band hip-hop recording ~~~
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 23:24, Stan Brager <stanbrager at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Harry James was not always associated with swing era jazz.  In his later
>>>> years, his music played more modern jazz
>>>
>>>
>>> I have never heard James live, but I've heard his later recordings.  So,
>>> true, it was not always swing era jazz, but modern?  I'd say sweet, even
>>> syrupy, but modern?
>>> Many years ago a Canadian journalist was rather upset when we referred
>>> to Harry James as a jazz musician.  "What? He and his terrible dance band
>>> trumpet?"  Of course we right away started playing James' old records as a
>>> blindfold test.  He inferred who it was from the context, but said he had
>>> never heard James playing like that.  I ave some small (and big) band later
>>> recordings, with Willie Smith and Corky Corcoran, and they are anything but
>>> modern!
>>>
>>>
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