[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 208, Issue 23

[Ken Mathieson]

Hi All,

Thanks to all for the Black Dogs info and to Robert for a poem I managed 
to understand!

Awrabestawratime! (ancient Glaswegian farewell)

Ken

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>     1. Murder She Wrote (Robert Ringwald)
>     2. Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs (Ken Mathieson)
>     3. Re: Murder She Wrote (Marek Boym)
>     4. Re: Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs (Kit W Johnson)
>     5. Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs (Bill Haesler)
>     6. Re: Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs (Ross Anderson)
>     7. Uncle Yolk (ROBERT R. CALDER)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:39:04 -0700
> From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Murder She Wrote
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> Derek Coller noted biographer, writer and jazz critic from the UK, Posed the following question. Anyone have an answer?
>
>
>
> Bob Ringwald
>
>
>
> MURDER, SHE WROTE
>
>
>
>           Is this the time for a little light relief, before the Spring arrives?  A time to reveal my guilty secret?
>
>
>
> The long-running television series, Murder, She Wrote, featured Angela Lansbury as mystery writer J.B. Fletcher, the greatest amateur detective since Agatha Christie's heyday. During 2019, repeats of the series were shown as I was settling down to my evening meal, with the result that I watched quite a few.
>
>
>
>          During one such viewing I realized that some of the characters had  names that sounded familiar.  My memory is that there were at least six such, all connected with the early Bob Crosby orchestra. I do recall Clark Randall, Sterling Bose and Kay Weber.
>
>
>
> Subsequently there were five other episodes where I noted jazz connections. One had Edmond Hall and a detective Gowans, another was set in Paris, with Hughes Panassie, Violet Bechet, Maxim Soury (not Saury!), Lu Watters, Eva Taylor and Peter Appleyard.
>
>
>
> One episode with a baseball background included Harry Dial, Pete Briggs, Al Sidell, Flip Phillips, and bandleaders Freddie Masters and Mike Warlop. Another repeated these same names, except for Johnny Eaton instead of Michael (Mike) Warlop. There was also a story set in New Orleans, involving jazz musicians, though I failed to spot any familiar names.
>
>
>
> A quick check via Google found that Murder, She Wrote ran for 264 episodes between 1984 and 1996. There is a rather long list of all the actors who participated, with their photographs, and their character names. A short sampling revealed a few more examples - Frances Hunt, Boyce Brown, Larry Shields, Kim (!) Bechet, and Detective Bess Stacy!
>
>
>
> Credits are usually difficult to read as they unscroll, but the story editor is generally one Robert Swanson. So the mystery here is, was Mr. Swanson the guilty party? Was he the enthusiast who influenced the writers or was there a secret jazz collector hidden among them? Who can unmask the culprit? Can we put J.B. Fletcher on the case?
>
>
>
> Derek Coller
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> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 22:45:58 +0100
> From: Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>
> To: bhaesler at bigpond.net.au,	Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
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> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
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> Hi Bill et al,
>
> When I was with the Edinburgh-based Fat Sam's Band we used to run into
> the Dogs on a regular basis in California, British Columbia and all over
> Europe, so they all became good pals. Bandleader/trombonist Steve Yocum
> was a great entertainer and communicator with audiences and the band was
> full of excellent players. Drummer Ed Metz was (and still is) a knockout
> player and we became good buddies (indeed I'm still in occasional touch
> with him). They had an excellent hot trumpeter/cornetist whose name now
> escapes me, but he was a hard-swinging lead and a strong soloist. There
> was also a sousaphone player who had rigged his horn with low-grade
> blasting powder wired up to a foot switch which detonated it. The climax
> of the act was Tiger Rag taken at a lick and when they reached the "Hold
> That Tiger" trio part, he'd fire off the charges under the trombone
> glissandi. Of course, as well as startling explosions, there were also
> vivid flashes and lots of smoke, so it always brought the house down.
> Don't ask me how he got the explosives and detonators through airport
> security! No doubt Bill will do his usual professional discographical
> magic and conjure up their names.
>
> At one festival in Holland I remember them asking about various local
> drinks and we inducted them into the Sinbad Society, which was a great
> sanity preserver for Fat Sam's musicians on the road. Sinbad stood for
> The Society for the Investigation of Novel and Bewildering Alcoholic
> Drinks and its rules were very simple: if you encountered a drink you'd
> never seen before, you were honour bound to try it and report back to
> the other members. We encountered a stack of mysterious drinks like A
> Walk in the Woods (vodka, Curacao liqueur and angostura bitters), which
> we were introduced to by a Dutch musician in a bar in Amsterdam. It
> tasted great, was cheaper than beer and got you there in no time.
> Another was a Danish speciality Swarze Svin, or Black Pig (vodka and
> dissolved licorice), which had the dual benefit of being "strong licor"
> and a laxative.
>
> Does anyone know if the Black Dogs are still working?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:47:19 +0300
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Murder She Wrote
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> Hi Bob,
> Maxim Soury was not a jazz musician.  Maxim Saury was a French traditional
> clarinettist who passed away in 2012.
> Cheers
>
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 23:20, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:
>
>> Derek Coller noted biographer, writer and jazz critic from the UK, Posed
>> the following question. Anyone have an answer?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Ringwald
>>
>>
>>
>> MURDER, SHE WROTE
>>
>>
>>
>>           Is this the time for a little light relief, before the Spring
>> arrives?  A time to reveal my guilty secret?
>>
>>
>>
>> The long-running television series, *Murder, She Wrote*, featured Angela
>> Lansbury as mystery writer J.B. Fletcher, the greatest amateur detective
>> since Agatha Christie's heyday. During 2019, repeats of the series were
>> shown as I was settling down to my evening meal, with the result that I
>> watched quite a few.
>>
>>
>>
>>          During one such viewing I realized that some of the characters had
>> names that sounded familiar.  My memory is that there were at least six
>> such, all connected with the early Bob Crosby orchestra. I do recall Clark
>> Randall, Sterling Bose and Kay Weber.
>>
>>
>>
>> Subsequently there were five other episodes where I noted jazz
>> connections. One had Edmond Hall and a detective Gowans, another was set in
>> Paris, with Hughes Panassie, Violet Bechet, Maxim Soury (not Saury!), Lu
>> Watters, Eva Taylor and Peter Appleyard.
>>
>>
>>
>> One episode with a baseball background included Harry Dial, Pete Briggs,
>> Al Sidell, Flip Phillips, and bandleaders Freddie Masters and Mike Warlop.
>> Another repeated these same names, except for Johnny Eaton instead of
>> Michael (Mike) Warlop. There was also a story set in New Orleans, involving
>> jazz musicians, though I failed to spot any familiar names.
>>
>>
>>
>> A quick check via Google found that *Murder, She Wrote* ran for 264
>> episodes between 1984 and 1996. There is a rather long list of all the
>> actors who participated, with their photographs, and their character names.
>> A short sampling revealed a few more examples - Frances Hunt, Boyce Brown,
>> Larry Shields, Kim (!) Bechet, and Detective Bess Stacy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Credits are usually difficult to read as they unscroll, but the story
>> editor is generally one Robert Swanson. So the mystery here is, was Mr.
>> Swanson the guilty party? Was he the enthusiast who influenced the writers
>> or was there a secret jazz collector hidden among them? Who can unmask the
>> culprit? Can we put J.B. Fletcher on the case?
>>
>>
>>
>> Derek Coller
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:34:53 -0700
> From: "Kit W Johnson" <kit at bscjb.com>
> To: "'Ken Mathieson'" <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>
> Cc: 'Dixieland Jazz Mailing List' <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
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> I don't think that the Black Dogs as a full group are still working at all.
> Occasionally I see some name association with combo groups around one or
> more of the former players (e.g. Tom Hook's (p) Terriers) who used to show
> up every year or so in Penticton, BC, though I think Tom said a couple of
> years ago that he wasn't planning on any more festival travel. The tuba
> player was Dave Gannett. I think Dave is largely out of music now, though he
> may still play some electric bass in the midwestern US. His CD titled "Tubas
> from Hell, Music from Heaven" from a few years ago is much admired by the
> low brass ilk, myself included. I think the cornetist was Davey Jones.
>
> Kit W. Johnson
> Black Swan Classic Jazz Band
> 503-970-1251
> kit at bscjb.com
> www.bscjb.com
>
> A musician has to expect to be excited. There is no way you can be a fine
> musician and just be placid and dull. Life involves many exciting
> experiences and you express all aspects of life in music just like an actor
> would.? ~Arnold Jacobs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:46 PM
> To: Kit Johnson <kit at bscjb.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
>
> Hi Bill et al,
>
> When I was with the Edinburgh-based Fat Sam's Band we used to run into the
> Dogs on a regular basis in California, British Columbia and all over Europe,
> so they all became good pals. Bandleader/trombonist Steve Yocum was a great
> entertainer and communicator with audiences and the band was full of
> excellent players. Drummer Ed Metz was (and still is) a knockout player and
> we became good buddies (indeed I'm still in occasional touch with him). They
> had an excellent hot trumpeter/cornetist whose name now escapes me, but he
> was a hard-swinging lead and a strong soloist. There was also a sousaphone
> player who had rigged his horn with low-grade blasting powder wired up to a
> foot switch which detonated it. The climax of the act was Tiger Rag taken at
> a lick and when they reached the "Hold That Tiger" trio part, he'd fire off
> the charges under the trombone glissandi. Of course, as well as startling
> explosions, there were also vivid flashes and lots of smoke, so it always
> brought the house down.
> Don't ask me how he got the explosives and detonators through airport
> security! No doubt Bill will do his usual professional discographical magic
> and conjure up their names.
>
> At one festival in Holland I remember them asking about various local drinks
> and we inducted them into the Sinbad Society, which was a great sanity
> preserver for Fat Sam's musicians on the road. Sinbad stood for The Society
> for the Investigation of Novel and Bewildering Alcoholic Drinks and its
> rules were very simple: if you encountered a drink you'd never seen before,
> you were honour bound to try it and report back to the other members. We
> encountered a stack of mysterious drinks like A Walk in the Woods (vodka,
> Curacao liqueur and angostura bitters), which we were introduced to by a
> Dutch musician in a bar in Amsterdam. It tasted great, was cheaper than beer
> and got you there in no time.
> Another was a Danish speciality Swarze Svin, or Black Pig (vodka and
> dissolved licorice), which had the dual benefit of being "strong licor"
> and a laxative.
>
> Does anyone know if the Black Dogs are still working?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:58:21 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> To: Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>,	Dixieland Jazz
> 	Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
> Message-ID: <FA069AB8-8DE4-4277-B9E7-5CD554692F3D at bigpond.net.au>
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>> On 27 Apr 2020, at 7:45 AM, Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk> wrote [in part]
>> ...Drummer Ed Metz was (and still is) a knockout player and we became good buddies (indeed I'm still in occasional touch with him). They had an excellent hot trumpeter/cornetist whose name now escapes me, but he was a hard-swinging lead and a strong soloist...
> Dear Ken,
> On the 1989 cassettes I was referring to the band had:
> David Jones (c ) Steve Yocum (tb,vcl) Jim Buchmann (cl,sop,bassax) Tom Hook (p,vcl) Bob Leary (bj,g) Dave Gannett (tu) Eddie Metz, Jr. (d,vcl)
>
> And I agree with you regarding the drummer and cornet player.
> Kind regards,
> Bill.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 11:08:55 +1000
> From: "Ross Anderson" <rossanmjband at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <kit at bscjb.com>
> Cc: 'Dixieland Jazz Mailing List' <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
> Message-ID: <005101d61c30$6e7be6b0$4b73b410$@iprimus.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> In 1990 We "The New Melbourne Jazz Band" were invited to 8th TerrifVic Jazz
> Party".
>   The Uncle Yokes Black Dogs were there and We got to Meet them and were
> knocked out by their presentation .
> At the final We and Them very invited to play at the final concert,
> Rules were "Each Band had a 15 minute spot" ,
> The Black Dogs came stage and Steve "Nodded" To Eddy and he started a
>   "10 Minute Solo " !!!!!!
> They finished their spot right on the "15" minute !!!!
> A really GREAT BAND.
> It was the first of our (the NMJB) 6 invites the Victoria on the Island,
> Great Memories !!
> Best wishes to All the this Great List.
> Cheers, Ross
> www.newmelbournejazzband.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kit W Johnson [mailto:kit at bscjb.com]
> Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 9:35 AM
> To: rossanmjband at iprimus.com.au
> Cc: 'Dixieland Jazz Mailing List' <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
>
> I don't think that the Black Dogs as a full group are still working at all.
> Occasionally I see some name association with combo groups around one or
> more of the former players (e.g. Tom Hook's (p) Terriers) who used to show
> up every year or so in Penticton, BC, though I think Tom said a couple of
> years ago that he wasn't planning on any more festival travel. The tuba
> player was Dave Gannett. I think Dave is largely out of music now, though he
> may still play some electric bass in the midwestern US. His CD titled "Tubas
> from Hell, Music from Heaven" from a few years ago is much admired by the
> low brass ilk, myself included. I think the cornetist was Davey Jones.
>
> Kit W. Johnson
> Black Swan Classic Jazz Band
> 503-970-1251
> kit at bscjb.com
> www.bscjb.com
>
> A musician has to expect to be excited. There is no way you can be a fine
> musician and just be placid and dull. Life involves many exciting
> experiences and you express all aspects of life in music just like an actor
> would.? ~Arnold Jacobs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:46 PM
> To: Kit Johnson <kit at bscjb.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yoke's Black Dogs
>
> Hi Bill et al,
>
> When I was with the Edinburgh-based Fat Sam's Band we used to run into the
> Dogs on a regular basis in California, British Columbia and all over Europe,
> so they all became good pals. Bandleader/trombonist Steve Yocum was a great
> entertainer and communicator with audiences and the band was full of
> excellent players. Drummer Ed Metz was (and still is) a knockout player and
> we became good buddies (indeed I'm still in occasional touch with him). They
> had an excellent hot trumpeter/cornetist whose name now escapes me, but he
> was a hard-swinging lead and a strong soloist. There was also a sousaphone
> player who had rigged his horn with low-grade blasting powder wired up to a
> foot switch which detonated it. The climax of the act was Tiger Rag taken at
> a lick and when they reached the "Hold That Tiger" trio part, he'd fire off
> the charges under the trombone glissandi. Of course, as well as startling
> explosions, there were also vivid flashes and lots of smoke, so it always
> brought the house down.
> Don't ask me how he got the explosives and detonators through airport
> security! No doubt Bill will do his usual professional discographical magic
> and conjure up their names.
>
> At one festival in Holland I remember them asking about various local drinks
> and we inducted them into the Sinbad Society, which was a great sanity
> preserver for Fat Sam's musicians on the road. Sinbad stood for The Society
> for the Investigation of Novel and Bewildering Alcoholic Drinks and its
> rules were very simple: if you encountered a drink you'd never seen before,
> you were honour bound to try it and report back to the other members. We
> encountered a stack of mysterious drinks like A Walk in the Woods (vodka,
> Curacao liqueur and angostura bitters), which we were introduced to by a
> Dutch musician in a bar in Amsterdam. It tasted great, was cheaper than beer
> and got you there in no time.
> Another was a Danish speciality Swarze Svin, or Black Pig (vodka and
> dissolved licorice), which had the dual benefit of being "strong licor"
> and a laxative.
>
> Does anyone know if the Black Dogs are still working?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 01:14:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "ROBERT R. CALDER" <serapion at btinternet.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Uncle Yolk
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdQh0kiGf3M
>
>
>
> I know full well it's a terrible Jolk
> but it might be a pity that Uncle Yoke
> seems not to have poached with Eggy Ley --
> admittedly spellings get in the way --
> chief among Anglo-Saxon Sopranopholk.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Coe4hE3CYg
>
>
> Robert R. Calder
>
>
>
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