[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 193, Issue 23

Sun Jan 20 17:32:05 EST 2019

Hi Charlie et al,

Charlie's attachment got scrubbed , so, as I was the initiator of this 
thing about scans of the IAJRC article and am grateful to Charlie and 
Deborah for sending them to me (duly thanked in a private email), I'd be 
happy to forward the scans to any listmates who are interested to save 
Charlie & Deborah further hassle. Just mail me at the address above and 
I'll do it.

I'm not sure that my observations in my mail to Charlie are particularly 
interesting, but in case anyone is interested, here's the relevant text 
from that mail:

Many thanks indeed for the trouble you've taken to scan and send this 
article.

It's a pretty fair, if very brief, history of jazz in/from Scotland. The 
need for brevity means there are some eye-popping omissions - for 
instance soprano saxophonist Jim Galloway who emigrated to Canada in the 
1960s, worked at the highest level world-wide, died a couple of years 
back and is the recent subject of a biopic film - but I'll forgive the 
author since he gave my band and me a name-check! I'll also remind him 
the next time we meet that Scotland actually has 4 languages: he missed 
Norn, spoken in the Shetland Isles and part-derived from Scandinavian 
tongues and Lallans (aka Doric) which is widely spoken across most of 
the Scottish mainland. I don't speak Norn, but I'm bi-lingual in English 
and Lallans (not to mention German and Portuguese) since childhood /an' 
gin ah wiz tae screive in the Lallans leid, ye widnae ken muckle o't. 
/The//italicised bit translates as /and if I were to write in the 
Lallans language you wouldn't understand much of it./

Roger Craik is very much an Edinburgh man and his knowledge of jazz 
events in Glasgow and elsewhere in Scotland is pretty limited. Glasgow 
up to the 1980s for instance was a hot bed of jazz activity covering all 
the styles and the Black Bull Jazz Club just outside the city was on the 
international stars' touring circuit. I was lucky enough to be drummer 
in the house band for the 14 years of the club's existence and got to 
work with an amazing array of visiting stars there. A few of the 
Americans who were regular visitors were people as stylistically diverse 
as Sonny Stitt and Bud Freeman, Art Farmer and Wild Bill Davison, 
clarinettists Peanuts Hucko and Buddy de Franco, guitarists Al Casey and 
Tal Farlow.

The article mentions pianist Billy Mason playing with the Southern 
Syncopators. Somewhere online I came across some biographical stuff 
about him which recalled that he'd been auditioned by the band and had 
fitted right in. This must have been at a time when the only American 
jazz records available in UK would have been the ODJB 78s, so he clearly 
had an intuitive feel for the Syncopators' music. Improvisation is 
commonplace in Scottish folk music and in the music played for Scottish 
Country Dancing, which is based on ancient folkdance traditions. The 
rhythm sections of these country dance bands are in some ways very 
similar to early jazz: piano and bass play with a 2/4 feel (i.e. 
vertical rhythm) while the drummer, using snare and bass drum (plus 
hi-hat in more recent times), plays simple but propulsive syncopated  
rhythms across the beats and barlines (i.e. propels the music 
horizontally). Jake Hanna was a good pal of mine and he got Jim Galloway 
and me plus a Scottish pianist and bassist to play some country dance 
selections n order to hear what the drummer got up to. When we'd 
finished he said he'd heard Baby Dodds and Zutty when he was a youngster 
in Boston and (his words) "there was more of that (meaning the country 
dance thing) in their playing than there was of Africa." I asked him if 
he was kidding me on, but he was adamant that the roles and the means of 
horizontalising the time were so similar. I guess he meant only how they 
played in small jazz bands as I'm sure they both had plenty of New 
Orleans/Caribbean flavour to their playing when the occasion required it.

Anyway, by way of repaying your kindness I've attached an mp3 of my band 
in a recent concert playing part of a suite I wrote for a commission 
about the Thread Industry in my home town of Paisley. It's called King 
Cotton and depicts the sourcing of Egyptian and American cotton in the 
Paisley mills. It's also an opportunity for me to tip my hat to two of 
my favourite composers, both American, Henry Cowell and Duke Ellington. 
I hope you enjoy!

Cheers,

Ken

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> Just back from another Eli and the Chocolate Factory show in Tel-Aviv.
> To my surprise, the small place - Hoodna - was very crowded.  The
> repertoire was mostly standards, but also a rather obscure Ellington tune
> "Krum Elbow Blues" and, with no sopranos or clarinets in sight, "Si Tu Vois
> Ma Mere" (discussed on the list not long ago) and "Pee Wee's Blues."  Jess
> Koren soloed on both on tenor; the trumpeter Eli Preminger sat out on "Si
> Tu Vois".
> In all, an over an hour show, enthusiastically received by the small, and
> mostly young, audience.  As usual, yours truly must have been the oldest
> there, raising the average age,
> Cover was NIS 40 (about US$ 11), and well worth it!  They have good beer
> there, too - I had Shapiro (a Jerusalem brewery)  Jack's Winter Ale, 8.5%
> abv, brewed with Jack Daniels barrel shavings.
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> From: Steve Voce <stevevoce at virginmedia.com>
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> Aaargh! Marek the jazz generaliser strikes again.
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> Krum Elbow Blues, recorded on 24 August 1938, is an Ellington classic
> played by Johnny Hodges. Helen Oakley Dance wrote that "I am not alone
> in thinking it is one of the greatest things he (Johnny) ever played."
> It also features wonderful growl trumpet from Cootie and suave trombone
> from the master, Lawrence Brown.
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> Maybe you should have been collecting Ellington instead of Colyer?
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> Steve Voce
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> On 19/01/2019 22:11, Marek Boym wrote:
>> ? '..... but also a rather obscure Ellington tune "Krum Elbow Blues" '
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> The magazine is now available free online, beginning with the January
> edition.
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> Go to jazzjournal.co.uk
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> From: Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net>
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> My computer-savvy wife scanned this and I sent it to Ken Mathieson. Looks like there's a wider interest, so here it is for all DJMLers. Ken had some really interesting perspectives that I hope he'll share with you.
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> Charles
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Deborah Little <dlittle1 at zebra.net>
>> Subject: Scans of Jazz article
>> Date: January 16, 2019 at 1:25:05 PM CST
>> To: ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk
>> Cc: Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net>
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>> Here are three pdf files of the IARJC jazz article.
>>
>> Deborah & Charlie
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