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<p>Hi Charlie et al,</p>
<p>Charlie's attachment got scrubbed , so, as I was the initiator of
this thing about scans of the IAJRC article and am grateful to
Charlie and Deborah for sending them to me (duly thanked in a
private email), I'd be happy to forward the scans to any listmates
who are interested to save Charlie & Deborah further hassle.
Just mail me at the address above and I'll do it.</p>
<p>I'm not sure that my observations in my mail to Charlie are
particularly interesting, but in case anyone is interested, here's
the relevant text from that mail:</p>
<p>Many thanks indeed for the trouble you've taken to scan and send
this article.</p>
<p>It's a pretty fair, if very brief, history of jazz in/from
Scotland. The need for brevity means there are some eye-popping
omissions - for instance soprano saxophonist Jim Galloway who
emigrated to Canada in the 1960s, worked at the highest level
world-wide, died a couple of years back and is the recent subject
of a biopic film - but I'll forgive the author since he gave my
band and me a name-check! I'll also remind him the next time we
meet that Scotland actually has 4 languages: he missed Norn,
spoken in the Shetland Isles and part-derived from Scandinavian
tongues and Lallans (aka Doric) which is widely spoken across most
of the Scottish mainland. I don't speak Norn, but I'm bi-lingual
in English and Lallans (not to mention German and Portuguese)
since childhood <i>an' gin ah wiz tae screive in the Lallans
leid, ye widnae ken muckle o't. </i>The<i> </i>italicised bit
translates as <i>and if I were to write in the Lallans language
you wouldn't understand much of it.</i></p>
<p>Roger Craik is very much an Edinburgh man and his knowledge of
jazz events in Glasgow and elsewhere in Scotland is pretty
limited. Glasgow up to the 1980s for instance was a hot bed of
jazz activity covering all the styles and the Black Bull Jazz Club
just outside the city was on the international stars' touring
circuit. I was lucky enough to be drummer in the house band for
the 14 years of the club's existence and got to work with an
amazing array of visiting stars there. A few of the Americans who
were regular visitors were people as stylistically diverse as
Sonny Stitt and Bud Freeman, Art Farmer and Wild Bill Davison,
clarinettists Peanuts Hucko and Buddy de Franco, guitarists Al
Casey and Tal Farlow.</p>
<p>The article mentions pianist Billy Mason playing with the
Southern Syncopators. Somewhere online I came across some
biographical stuff about him which recalled that he'd been
auditioned by the band and had fitted right in. This must have
been at a time when the only American jazz records available in UK
would have been the ODJB 78s, so he clearly had an intuitive feel
for the Syncopators' music. Improvisation is commonplace in
Scottish folk music and in the music played for Scottish Country
Dancing, which is based on ancient folkdance traditions. The
rhythm sections of these country dance bands are in some ways very
similar to early jazz: piano and bass play with a 2/4 feel (i.e.
vertical rhythm) while the drummer, using snare and bass drum
(plus hi-hat in more recent times), plays simple but propulsive
syncopated rhythms across the beats and barlines (i.e. propels
the music horizontally). Jake Hanna was a good pal of mine and he
got Jim Galloway and me plus a Scottish pianist and bassist to
play some country dance selections n order to hear what the
drummer got up to. When we'd finished he said he'd heard Baby
Dodds and Zutty when he was a youngster in Boston and (his words)
"there was more of that (meaning the country dance thing) in their
playing than there was of Africa." I asked him if he was kidding
me on, but he was adamant that the roles and the means of
horizontalising the time were so similar. I guess he meant only
how they played in small jazz bands as I'm sure they both had
plenty of New Orleans/Caribbean flavour to their playing when the
occasion required it. <br>
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<p>Anyway, by way of repaying your kindness I've attached an mp3 of
my band in a recent concert playing part of a suite I wrote for a
commission about the Thread Industry in my home town of Paisley.
It's called King Cotton and depicts the sourcing of Egyptian and
American cotton in the Paisley mills. It's also an opportunity for
me to tip my hat to two of my favourite composers, both American,
Henry Cowell and Duke Ellington. I hope you enjoy!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ken<br>
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Just back from another Eli and the Chocolate Factory show in Tel-Aviv.
To my surprise, the small place - Hoodna - was very crowded. The
repertoire was mostly standards, but also a rather obscure Ellington tune
"Krum Elbow Blues" and, with no sopranos or clarinets in sight, "Si Tu Vois
Ma Mere" (discussed on the list not long ago) and "Pee Wee's Blues." Jess
Koren soloed on both on tenor; the trumpeter Eli Preminger sat out on "Si
Tu Vois".
In all, an over an hour show, enthusiastically received by the small, and
mostly young, audience. As usual, yours truly must have been the oldest
there, raising the average age,
Cover was NIS 40 (about US$ 11), and well worth it! They have good beer
there, too - I had Shapiro (a Jerusalem brewery) Jack's Winter Ale, 8.5%
abv, brewed with Jack Daniels barrel shavings.
Cheers
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Aaargh! Marek the jazz generaliser strikes again.
Krum Elbow Blues, recorded on 24 August 1938, is an Ellington classic
played by Johnny Hodges. Helen Oakley Dance wrote that "I am not alone
in thinking it is one of the greatest things he (Johnny) ever played."
It also features wonderful growl trumpet from Cootie and suave trombone
from the master, Lawrence Brown.
Maybe you should have been collecting Ellington instead of Colyer?
Steve Voce
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The magazine is now available free online, beginning with the January
edition.
Go to jazzjournal.co.uk
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My computer-savvy wife scanned this and I sent it to Ken Mathieson. Looks like there's a wider interest, so here it is for all DJMLers. Ken had some really interesting perspectives that I hope he'll share with you.
Charles
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Subject: Scans of Jazz article
Date: January 16, 2019 at 1:25:05 PM CST
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk">ken@kenmath.free-online.co.uk</a>
Cc: Charles Suhor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:csuhor@zebra.net"><csuhor@zebra.net></a>
Here are three pdf files of the IARJC jazz article.
Deborah & Charlie
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