[Dixielandjazz] DJ Themes
Bill Haesler
bhaesler at bigpond.net.au
Thu Nov 8 21:29:03 EST 2018
> Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net> wrote [in part]:
> I'm wondering if you can track down who the trumpet and sax soloists were on Barnet's "Darktown" record. They're wickedly clever.
Dear Charlie,
Never the easy ones. <big grin>
> One clear recollection is Block playing Charlie Barnet's merciless put-on of traditional jazz on "Darktown Strutters' Ball," also linked below. He preceded it by saying. "Whenever Charlie Barnet is asked to record a Dixieland tune, he sticks out his tongue and says, 'NYAAAAH!" I liked it so much, I bought it! (The flip side was “Caravan,” with a young Maynard Ferguson.)
I assume that you had/have the Apollo 1070 10" 78rpm disc.
For which we have a choice of two recording/location dates and three personnels:
(Trumpet) Al Killian, Art Robey, Ed Stress, Everett McDonald, George Seaberg, Paul Webster; (Trombone) Ed Fromm, Frank Bradley, Porky Cohen, Tommy Pederson(Alto Saxophone , Soprano Saxophone , Tenor Saxophone) Charlie Barnet; (Alto Saxophone) Gene Kinsey, Ray DeGeer; (Tenor Saxophone) Dave Matthews, Kurt Bloom; (Baritone Saxophone) Bob Dawes, Johnny McAfee; (French Horn) Guy Kee; ( Piano) Bill Miller; (Guitar) Dennis Sandole; (Double Bass) Chubby Jackson; (Drums) George Jenkins.
New York, August 12, 1946.
Al Killian, Jimmy Pupa, Everett McDonald, Guy Chiaveri, Paul Webster (t) Art Robey (t,vcl); Sammy Nestico, Porky Cohen, Ed Fromm, Frank Bradley (tb); Charlie Barnet (sax,ldr) Rae De Geer, Gene Kinsey (as) Kurt Bloom, Dave Matthews (ts) Danny Bank (bar) Johnny McAfee (bar,vcl) Bill Miller (p) Irving Lang (b) George Jenkins (d) Andy Gibson, Billy May, Billy Moore, Ralph Burns (arr).
New York, August 12, 1946
Al Killian, Irving Lewis, Everett McDonald, Shorty Rogers, trumpet; Art Robey, trumpet, vocals; Frank Bradley, Burt Johnson, Tommy Pederson, Phil Washburne, trombone; Gus McReynolds, Frank Papalardo, alto sax; Kurt Bloom, Don Raffell, tenor sax; Charlie Barnet, tenor, soprano, alto sax; Bob Dawes, baritone sax; Billy Miller, piano; Barney Kessel, guitar; Ed Mihelich, bass; Dick Shanahan, drums.
Los Angeles, CA, February 3, 1947
But sorting out what tunes were recorded on which day seems to have confused the discograpers.has been a problem.
because the 78s came out on different labels.
Charlie Barnet And His Orchestra
*as Charlie Barnet and His Cherokees
+as Charlie Barnet
Charlie Barnet and Band on V-Disc
•August 12, 1946
6194 AP3098 Bunny Apollo 1065
6195-204 The New Redskin Rhumba Cardinal 25001+, National 2500, Cosmo 513
6196 AP3100 I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good Clef MG C-164 (10"LP)
6197-306 Cherokee Cardinal 25001+, National 25001, Cosmo 513
6198 AP3102 As Long As I Live Clef MG C-164 (10" LP)
6199 AP 3101-A2 Atlantic Jump Apollo 1065
AP 3101 (alt) Atlantic Jump V-Disc 823
•February 3, 1947
AP3096 745-1 Blue Lou Apollo 1082*,
AP3097 Juice Head Blues [Baby on LP] Apollo 1082*
AP 3099-A2 Caravan Apollo 1070, Monogram 116
AP 3100-B2 Darktown Strutter's Ball Apollo 1070, Monogram 116
Power Steering Clef MG C-165 (10" LP)
********
•Charlie Barnet and His Orch. C Garrod
•Those Swinging Years. Barnet - S Dance
•Charlie Barnet and his Orchestra
Both sides recorded Feb 3, 1947
BB Jul 26, 1947 Advance Record Releases
BB Aug 9, 1947 ad, p.40
*In 1948, Ferguson moved to the United States,[1] intending to join Stan Kenton's band. But it no longer existed, so Ferguson played with the bands of Boyd Raeburn, Jimmy Dorsey, and Charlie Barnet. The Barnet band included Doc Severinsen, Ray Wetzel, Johnny Howell, and Rolf Ericson. Ferguson was featured on Barnet's recording of "All The Things You Are" by Jerome Kern. The recording enraged Kern's widow and was withdrawn from sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRCFUXR7rl0
•08 Charlie Barnet - Darktown Strutter's Ball 1947 Shorty Rogers, Al Killian,
Bill Miller, Barney Kessle, Dick Shanahan, Arr. Ralph Burns w Everett
McDonald v
After a typical trumpet intro by Shorty Rogers (or Al Killian or Billy
May??) on trumpet, Charlie Barnet demonstrates why Stan Getz beat him in the
prestigious "Concrete and Florist Worker's Union weekly newsletter" jazz
poll of 1947.
•I remember this one--somehow I seem to recall the phrase "Swing and Sweat with Charlie Barnet" on it! I once spoke to Mr. Barnet on the telephone way back in 1977 to set up a phone interview with him for a fellow I worked with in radio. He was a real gent! Thanks for sharing this one as it's not often heard. And of course, "You better cut your toenails--you're rippin' the sheets!"
•Discogs
A Atlantic Jump
B Bunny
(Trumpet) Al Killian, Art Robey, Ed Stress, Everett McDonald, George Seaberg, Paul Webster; (Trombone) Ed Fromm, Frank Bradley, Porky Cohen, Tommy Pederson(Alto Saxophone , Soprano Saxophone , Tenor Saxophone) Charlie Barnet; (Alto Saxophone) Gene Kinsey, Ray DeGeer; (Tenor Saxophone) Dave Matthews, Kurt Bloom; (Baritone Saxophone) Bob Dawes, Johnny McAfee; (French Horn) Guy Kee; ( Piano) Bill Miller; (Guitar) Dennis Sandole; (Double Bass) Chubby Jackson; (Drums) George Jenkins.
New York, August 12, 1946.
•Clef
MGC 114 Charlie Barnet Plays Charlie Barnet
Al Killian, Irving Lewis, Everett McDonald, Shorty Rogers, trumpet; Art Robey, trumpet, vocals; Frank Bradley, Burt Johnson, Tommy Pederson, Phil Washburne, trombone; Gus McReynolds, Frank Papalardo, alto sax; Kurt Bloom, Don Raffell, tenor sax; Charlie Barnet, tenor, soprano, alto sax; Bob Dawes, baritone sax; Billy Miller, piano; Barney Kessel, guitar; Ed Mihelich, bass; George Jenkins, drums.
Los Angeles, CA, February 3, 1947
AP3096 | 745-1 Blue Lou
MGC 164 Charlie Barnet - Dance Session #2
Everett McDonald, trumpet; Porky Cohen, trombone; Guy Kee, French horn; Ray De Geer, Gene Kinsey, alto sax; Kurt Bloom, Dave Matthews, tenor sax; Charlie Barnet, tenor, soprano, alto sax; Bob Dawes, baritone sax; Bill Miller, piano; Dennis Sandole, guitar; Chubby Jackson, bass; George Jenkins, drums; Martha Raye, vocals.
NYC, August 5, 1946
AP3091 Sweet Lorraine
AP3092 Nobody Knows The Trouble I've Seen
AP3093 I Cover The Waterfront
add Al Killian, Art Robey, George Seaburg, Ed Stress, Paul Webster, trumpet; Frank Bradley, Ed Fromm, Tommy Pederson, trombone; John McAfee, baritone sax.
NYC, August 12, 1946
6196 I Got It Bad And That Ain't Good
6198 As Long As I Live
Al Killian, Irving Lewis, Everett McDonald, Shorty Rogers, trumpet; Art Robey, trumpet, vocals; Frank Bradley, Burt Johnson, Tommy Pederson, Phil Washburne, trombone; Gus McReynolds, Frank Papalardo, alto sax; Kurt Bloom, Don Raffell, tenor sax; Charlie Barnet, tenor, soprano, alto sax; Bob Dawes, baritone sax; Billy Miller, piano; Barney Kessel, guitar; Ed Mihelich, bass; George Jenkins, drums.
Los Angeles, CA, February 3, 1947
AP3097 Juice Head Baby
• Ajaz
•Charlie Barnet and his orchestra (Al Killian, Everett McDonald, Irving Lewis, Shorty Rogers, Art Robey, trumpets ; Frank Bradley, Burt Johnson, Tommy Pederson, Phil Washburne, trombones ; Charlie Barnet, saxes ; Guy "Gus" McReynolds, Frank Papalardo, alto sax ; Kurt Bloom, Don Raffael, tenor sax ; Bob Dawes, baritone sax ; Bill Miller, piano ; Barney Kessel, guitar ; Ed Mihelich, bass ; Dick Shanahan, drums).
Event notes: Recording and personnel information from 60 years of recorded jazz / Bruyninckx.
Recorded, Los Angeles 1947 February 3.
•Charlie Barnet
Al Killian, Jimmy Pupa, Everett McDonald, Guy Chiaveri, Paul Webster (tp) Art Robey (tp,vcl) Sammy Nestico, Porky Cohen, Ed Fromm, Frank Bradley (tb) Charlie Barnet (sax,ldr) Rae De Geer, Gene Kinsey (as) Kurt Bloom, Dave Matthews (ts) Danny Bank (bar) Johnny McAfee (bar,vcl) Bill Miller (p) Irving Lang (b) George Jenkins (d) Fran Warren (vcl) Andy Gibson, Billy May, Billy Moore (arr)
Ralph Burns (arr) added
New York, August 12, 1946
NSC 204 The new redskin rhumba (head arr) Cardinal 25001, National 25001, Ajaz 201
3099 Caravan (rb arr) Apollo 1070, Monogram (Can)116, Ajaz 209, Swing
Era LP1019
NSC 206 Cherokee (bma arr) Cardinal 25001, National 25001, Ajaz 209
3098 Bunny (ag arr) Apollo 1065, Clef MGC638, Verve MGV2027,
(E)2317060, Ajaz 201, Lonehill Jazz (Sp)LHJ10267
[CD]
3100 At the darktown strutters ball (head arr) Apollo 1070, Beaver (Can)1008, Monogram (Can)116,
Bandstand 7106, Ajaz 209, Stack of 78s Stack33
[CD]
3101 Atlantic jump [Atlantic hop] (ag arr) Apollo 1065, Clef MGC638, Verve MGV2027,
(E)2317060, Ajaz 209, Lonehill Jazz (Sp)LHJ10267
[CD]
Note: Mx. 3101 as "Atlantic Hop" on Clef MGC638 and Verve MGV2027.
Apollo 1070 "Song Hits Magazine 'Record of the Month'".
Clef MGC638 titled "One Night Stand".
Verve MGV2027 titled "Dancing Party".
Lonehill Jazz (Sp)LHJ10267 [CD] titled "Charlie Barnet Big Band 1967".
•https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_RtUOo6cM
> Thanks for the Chubby Jackson sendup, too. They pulled it off in amusing ways (especially Teddy Wilson) but didn't raise parody to the level of outright insult, as Barnet did. Charlie Shavers don't really seem to be trying very hard. For the most part he was playing a fiery swing stay trumpet, with no nanny-goat vibrato, corny cliches, etc.
>
> Re Spike Jones, I knew he hired good jazz musicians but never hear them attempting jazz without corny razzmatazz. Do you have links to any of his jazz stuff?
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