[Dixielandjazz] Si Tu Vois Ma Mere
Jean Marc Ternois
jeanm.ternois at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 06:41:35 EST 2018
Hello Jude,
thank you for this new insight on Si tu vois ma mère ! My participation in
this group enriches my English vocabulary with good... and bad words and I
am very happy about that.
Concerning Chris Barber, he’s a very great trombone, even though, with age,
playing trombone is increasingly difficult.
I play occasionally with Marcel Bornstein, who played and recorded with
Sidney Bechet and André Réveliotty in the 1950s. He always plays just as
well and it is always a great pleasure for me.
Music preserves ... when it does not destroy too quickly!
Friendly
Jean-Marc
Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 12:50, Judy Eames <jude at judyeames.co.uk> a écrit :
> Hi Jean Marc,
>
> We saw the Chris Barber band three days ago. They do an annual gig in a
> village hall on the Oxfordshire, Berkshire border. It's a privilege to hear
> a group of astoundingly good musicians in such an intimate session. I think
> the mare, mère confusion might have started as a joke; Politically
> incorrect men used "mare" to describe women sometimes.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jude
>
>
> www.judyeames.co.uk
>
> On 16/12/2018 23:11, Jean Marc Ternois wrote:
>
> Hello Bert,
>
> Chris Barber made a big hit in France with Petite Fleur (Monty Sunshine)
> maybe more than the Bechet's version. His version of "Si tu vois ma mère"
> (Lonesome) was less successful.
> The Bechet's success in France was very great and this beyond the Jazz
> fans. There was a kind of love story between Sidney and the popular french
> public. Sidney wrote many tunes according the "french taste" during his
> last years living in France.
>
> I'm a big fan of Chris Barber, he was (and still is) one of my models when
> I started on trombone in 1964 ! He is a very great trombone, I like his
> playing.
>
> Regards
>
> Jean Marc
>
> Le dim. 16 déc. 2018 à 22:11, Bert <mister_bertje at hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hello Jean Marc,
>>
>> Many thankt for your help with the French situation and your knowledge of
>> the song.
>> In my country (Netherlands) it was a little different.
>>
>> Bechet's other composition that had been a big hit through the recording
>> of Monty Sunshine with Chris Barber's Jazzband, was Petite Fleur, and
>> reached #1 for several months in Holland, the year 1959.
>> So the record company tried to duplicate this succes with a new recording
>> of Si Tu Vois Ma Mere by Monty Sunshine. The first version was marred by a
>> teriible out of tune guitar. Later there was a new version, where Chris
>> Barber answered the clarinet with trombone, in place of the guitar.
>> One of those records reached the #8 position in the Dutch charts, either
>> 1960 or 1961.
>>
>> Bechet's version never was a hit in the Netherlands, due to the silly
>> fact, that Holland had no hitparade at all in the early 1950's!
>>
>> Very kind regards,
>>
>> Bert Brandsma
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> "I didn't know the word of "Mare" and the misunderstanding with the title
>> "Si tu vois ma mère". It's very interesting ... and funny.
>>
>> For my part, what I can say is that the first time Sidney Bechet recorded
>> this tune was in 1952
>> This tune was a very big hit in France, many bands played it and nobody
>> was singing it.
>>
>> So, according to the big success encountered, the recording company (I
>> suppose) wanted someone to write lyrics (to make more money ?? :o)) ).
>>
>> Jean Broussolle was a singer who was a member of a vocal group well-known
>> in France at that time, named "Les compagnons de la chanson" which made his
>> debuts with Edith Piaf."
>>
>>
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