[Dixielandjazz] Forrie Cairns and Cy (was Wally Fawkes Birthday)

[Steve Voce]

Marek asked about where George Webb fitted in. We come in a circle back 
to Wally Fawkes. Wally recently told me 'George Webb was always ready 
for a fight. That's why he played the piano with clenched fists.'

Steve


On 26/06/2017 14:37, Marek Boym wrote:
> Forrie Cairns is not sufficiently well known  I have a Clyde Valley 
> CD, but nevertheless have no real opinion on Cairns.
> As to Steve's comment re. "Trad" - aren't we pigeonholing too much?  
> When did "Trad" start?  Was the 1949 Barber trad (the name had not yet 
> been used)?  And George Webb?
> Cheers
>
> On 26 June 2017 at 01:25, Ken Mathieson <ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk 
> <mailto:ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>     I'm not taking sides in the Cy Laurie stand-off, nor indulging in
>     lists pointless or otherwise, but the absence of one name from
>     this thread has been conspicuous: Forrie Cairns. He's retired from
>     playing now, but still to the fore in Edinburgh, having spent most
>     of his career in London and Zurich. His pro career involved
>     playing with the Clyde Valley Stompers before leading his own
>     Clansmen until trad jazz slipped off the radar of most of the
>     British public. He had a spell of free-lancing around London
>     before moving to Switzerland, where he was based for many years
>     working with Bob Wallis as well as the Picadilly Six. He returned
>     to Scotland about 20 years ago, settling in Edinburgh and still
>     playing as forcefully and inventively as ever until his retirement
>     for health reasons recently.
>
>     Forrie was recognised by Sandy Brown in The McJazz Manuscripts as
>     giving "...Sandy cause for concern on the occasions they occupied
>     the same bandstand." And "...Forrie made him more uncomfortable
>     than anyone except Tony Coe." And "...given the freewheeling ,
>     uncommitted atmosphere of Sandy's band Forrie could have been
>     unbeatable: he was never provided that climate, and was
>     consequently under-rated." Sandy described Forrie's playing as
>     being a "fierce amalgam of a number of New Orleans originals,
>     notably Ed Hall..." There were certainly traces of Ed Hall in his
>     sound, but his improvisations always struck me as unlike anyone
>     else's due to their unpredictability. He was always a delight to
>     play with as ideas just bubbled out of him and his rhythmic
>     attack, swing and intensity were often fierce, but he could play
>     with great sensitivity when the material called for it.
>
>     It's a great pity that he's not better represented on recordings,
>     but you can catch him here along with some other fine local
>     players on the Scottish scene:
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5PVwxmtJ5s
>     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5PVwxmtJ5s>
>
>     Cheers,
>     Ken
>
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