[Dixielandjazz] Doris Day
John Knurr
manofmusic4u at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 10 11:19:06 EDT 2017
I will never forget a movie Doris did called "Julie" - remember that it started like a typical Doris film but got darker and better as it went on and the ending is well worth it. Anybody know where I and find it on the net? John
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1. Wedcast of possible interest. (philwilking)
2. Trad Jazz Camp (philwilking)
3. Of melodies and such (Ken Gates)
4. Re: Of melodies and such (Robert Ringwald)
5. djmlBirthday Surprise for Ageless Doris Day: She?s Actually
95 (Robert Ringwald)
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 17:22:53 -0500
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Go to
www.hnoc.org
for an announcement of a musical event to be webcast on this Wednesday.
Phil Wilking - K5MZF
www.nolabanjo.com
Those who would exchange freedom for
security deserve neither freedom nor security.
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 17:25:07 -0500
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Trad Jazz Camp
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The New Orleans Traditional Jazz Camp still has a few available slots.
www.neworleanstradjazzcamp.com
Phil Wilking - K5MZF
www.nolabanjo.com
Those who would exchange freedom for
security deserve neither freedom nor security.
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Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 22:15:50 -0700
From: Ken Gates <kwg915 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
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An observation for players and listeners.
I wandered in to a youtube clip of a 1927 composition--see link number one.
I found it be very well played indeed. The melody stated and the
embellishments
and variations passed around with great skill. I couldn't remember ever
hearing
that melody before. I did some research to learn more about it, I'd like
to play it.
(I'm an amateur wannabe, can't claim to be a musician). I thought I had
heard
a lot of tunes during my listening days but discovered that it has been
recorded by
many ---both jazz, swing, Motown, and Montavani (easy listening). Wow,
how
had I not remembered hearing it. Composed as a waltz, but played 4/4 by
OKOM.
You can find many versions on youtube, but don't search for it by the title
("Diane")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ThotQ3WiE
?
? Link 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lP9zeRPjE
? Link 2?
? Here's my observation.
To my ears, both of these clips are really good.
Heitger, Barrett, Christopher (and excellent local players where
it was filmed in Germany) version began with melody as composed
(except for 4/4 instead of 3/4). Following the trombone, the trumpet,
tenor sax, and piano played creative embellishments and variations
and then some ensemble play to finish up. Wow---great music.
After spending some time researching for other versions. I discovered
that Eddie Condon many years ago had one with one his all-star
configurations. Link 2, of course. Wow---great players playing well.
However, the first chorus, well played of course, began with an altered
variation of the melody. Had this my first listening experience with this
tune I wouldn't have locked in that melody that rolled around in my head
for days.
My suggestion to performing musicians. There surely are folks like me
who need to hear the melody stated clearly the first time around so as
to better appreciate the inventive embellishments and variations that
follow. Let the bebop and post bebop folks play around with chords
and extensions of chords as the structure of the tune. They do it well.
But OKOM, I think, is based on melody.
?Just my opinion.
Ken Gates
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 07:56:20 -0700
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
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Ken,
I respectfully disagree. In the Condon version, the trombone, while taking a few liberties, still plays it close enough to the written lead to know what the tune is.
As a professional musician however, I do understand that civilians do hear music differently than a professional.
This fact was brought home to me by the following:
when I was a kid one of the first OKOM recordings I heard was a Ybjb recording. it was a 78 that my parents owned with Storyville Blues on one side and That?s a Plenty on the other. I appropriated the record and proceeded to wear it out.
As a novice lisener, I knew I liked the recording, but couldn?t really pick out the various instruments and understand what they were playing in the ensembles. In later years I heard the same recording. It was as if a curtain had been lifted between me and the band. I could hear and understand everything they were playing.
The same thing happened with several other recordings from my childhood.
That is one reason why Lawrence Welk became so popular with the general public. Mr. welk heard music the way civilians hear it. He would have the rehearsals taped and sent to his house. He would listen to them ande reject any arrangements that strayed too far from the melody.
-Bob
From: Ken Gates
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:15 PM
To: Bob Ringwald
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
An observation for players and listeners.
I wandered in to a youtube clip of a 1927 composition--see link number one.
I found it be very well played indeed. The melody stated and the embellishments
and variations passed around with great skill. I couldn't remember ever hearing
that melody before. I did some research to learn more about it, I'd like to play it.
(I'm an amateur wannabe, can't claim to be a musician). I thought I had heard
a lot of tunes during my listening days but discovered that it has been recorded by
many ---both jazz, swing, Motown, and Montavani (easy listening). Wow, how
had I not remembered hearing it. Composed as a waltz, but played 4/4 by OKOM.
You can find many versions on youtube, but don't search for it by the title ("Diane")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ThotQ3WiE ? ? Link 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lP9zeRPjE ? Link 2?
? Here's my observation.
To my ears, both of these clips are really good.
Heitger, Barrett, Christopher (and excellent local players where
it was filmed in Germany) version began with melody as composed
(except for 4/4 instead of 3/4). Following the trombone, the trumpet,
tenor sax, and piano played creative embellishments and variations
and then some ensemble play to finish up. Wow---great music.
After spending some time researching for other versions. I discovered
that Eddie Condon many years ago had one with one his all-star
configurations. Link 2, of course. Wow---great players playing well.
However, the first chorus, well played of course, began with an altered
variation of the melody. Had this my first listening experience with this
tune I wouldn't have locked in that melody that rolled around in my head
for days.
My suggestion to performing musicians. There surely are folks like me
who need to hear the melody stated clearly the first time around so as
to better appreciate the inventive embellishments and variations that
follow. Let the bebop and post bebop folks play around with chords
and extensions of chords as the structure of the tune. They do it well.
But OKOM, I think, is based on melody.
?Just my opinion.
Ken Gates
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 08:09:14 -0700
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] djmlBirthday Surprise for Ageless Doris Day:
She?s Actually 95
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Doris Day
Birthday Surprise for Ageless Doris Day: She?s Actually 95
by Lynn Elber
Associated Press, April 2, 2017
LOS ANGELES -- To Doris Day?s many admirers, the pert and fresh-faced charmer who starred in ?Pillow Talk? and ?Move Over Darling? is ageless.
But Day turns 95 on Monday -- which is a birthday surprise to even the star herself, who has long pegged her age to a 1924 birthdate that would make her 93. Media outlets have variously reported her as between 93 and 95.
A copy of Day?s birth certificate, obtained by The Associated Press from Ohio?s Office of Vital Statistics, settles the issue: Doris Mary Kappelhoff, her pre-fame name, was born on April 3, 1922, making her 95. Her parents were Alma and William Kappelhoff of Cincinnati.
?I?ve always said that age is just a number and I have never paid much attention to birthdays, but it?s great to finally know how old I really am!? Day said in a statement Sunday.
She?s in excellent company with other vibrant Hollywood standouts lucky enough to reach that milestone year, including Betty White, a close friend, and Carl Reiner.
?There has long been speculation and rumors about Doris? age and we get this question a lot, looks like we finally have the answer,? said Day?s spokesman, Charley Cullen Walters. ?The story I have heard the most is that at one point Doris was up for a role when quite young and her age may have been miswritten on the audition form. We don?t know if that?s correct, but if so it could?ve simply stuck for all these years.?
He said Day and White had long joked about White being two years older.
?Now we know that they are actually just a couple months apart, and turns out it?s an even bigger exciting landmark than we thought,? Walters said. White was born in January 1922.
On previous birthdays, Day has said she doesn?t care about her age but rather using the occasion to highlight her favorite cause: animals.
A longtime supporter of animal welfare, Day founded the nonprofit Doris Day Animal Foundation in 1978 to provide grants to projects that rescue, care for and protect animals. Among the wide-ranging recipients: a group that helps seniors and others with pet care needs; one that provides trained service dogs for veterans and others; Iowa Parrot Rescue, and Misfit Acres, a Minnesota horse sanctuary.
Day, who lives in Carmel, California, has effectively parlayed her fame for her mission. This year, she?s seeking to bring younger people on board with a social media campaign that asks people to post a photo or video of their pet with the hashtag #DorisBirthdayWish and the tag @ddaf_org for her foundation. The best of the submissions will be combined into a digital birthday card for her.
Famous friends and admirers are among those saluting Day online. Country music star Reba McEntire tweeted that she was donating to the foundation and invited her Twitter followers to do the same.
Day, who started out as a big band singer, made her film debut in 1948 with ?Romance on the High Seas? before starring in a string of smash-hit 1950s and ?60s rom-coms. She remained a pop star as well, with hits including ?Whatever Will Be Will Be (Que Sera)? and ?Secret Love.?
Pillow Talk? earned her an Academy Award nomination, and she won critical acclaim for dramatic turns in ?Midnight Lace? and ?Love Me or Leave Me.? But Oscar gold, including the lifetime achievement award that her career justifies, hasn?t come to her.
Yet Day, who once dismissed her ?goody two shoes? image as ?so boring,? isn?t necessarily predictable: Walters said she has been offered the honorary award several times and politely declined. She always concludes, he said, in a ?classic Doris tone -- ?Never say never!??
Photo of birth certificate:
http://bigstory.ap.org/4e59795cb64440bfa2567554e1f5309 307
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