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<DIV>Ken, </DIV>
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<DIV>I respectfully disagree. In the Condon version, the trombone, while taking
a few liberties, still plays it close enough to the written lead to know what
the tune is. </DIV>
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<DIV>As a professional musician however, I do understand that civilians do hear
music differently than a professional. </DIV>
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<DIV>This fact was brought home to me by the following:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>when I was a kid one of the first OKOM recordings I heard was a Ybjb
recording. it was a 78 that my parents owned with Storyville Blues on one side
and That’s a Plenty on the other. I appropriated the record and proceeded to
wear it out.</DIV>
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<DIV>As a novice lisener, I knew I liked the recording, but couldn’t really pick
out the various instruments and understand what they were
playing in the ensembles. In later years I heard the same
recording. It was as if a curtain had been lifted between me and the band. I
could hear and understand everything they were playing. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The same thing happened with several other recordings from my childhood.
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<DIV>That is one reason why Lawrence Welk became so popular with the general
public. Mr. welk heard music the way civilians hear it. He would have the
rehearsals taped and sent to his house. He would listen to them ande reject any
arrangements that strayed too far from the melody. </DIV>
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<DIV>-Bob</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kwg915@gmail.com>Ken
Gates</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 3, 2017 10:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=rsr@ringwald.com>Bob Ringwald</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>Dixieland Jazz Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">An observation
for players and listeners.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">I wandered in
to a youtube clip of a 1927 composition--see link number one.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">I found it be
very well played indeed. The melody stated and the embellishments</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">and variations
passed around with great skill. I couldn't remember ever hearing</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">that melody
before. I did some research to learn more about it, I'd like to play
it.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">(I'm an amateur
wannabe, can't claim to be a musician). I thought I had heard</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">a lot of tunes
during my listening days but discovered that it has been recorded by</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">many
---both jazz, swing, Motown, and Montavani (easy listening).
Wow, how</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">had I not
remembered hearing it. Composed as a waltz, but played 4/4 by OKOM.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">You can find
many versions on youtube, but don't search for it by the title ("Diane")</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="arial black, sans-serif"><A
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ThotQ3WiE"
target=_blank>https://www.youtube.com/watch?<WBR>v=i3ThotQ3WiE
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1</DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default
style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif; DISPLAY: inline"> </DIV></FONT><A
style="FONT-FAMILY: " href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lP9zeRPjE"
target=_blank black?,sans-serif?
arial>https://www.youtube.com/watch?<WBR>v=X8lP9zeRPjE</A>
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Link 2</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> Here's my
observation.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">To my ears,
both of these clips are really good.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">Heitger,
Barrett, Christopher (and excellent local players where</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">it was filmed
in Germany) version began with melody as composed</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">(except for 4/4
instead of 3/4). Following the trombone, the trumpet,</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">tenor sax, and
piano played creative embellishments and variations</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">and then some
ensemble play to finish up. Wow---great music.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">After spending
some time researching for other versions. I discovered</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">that Eddie
Condon many years ago had one with one his all-star</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default
style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">configurations. Link 2, of
course. Wow---great players playing well.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">However, the
first chorus, well played of course, began with an altered</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">variation of
the melody. Had this my first listening experience with this</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">tune I wouldn't
have locked in that melody that rolled around in my head</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">for days.
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<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">My suggestion
to performing musicians. There surely are folks like me</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">who need to
hear the melody stated clearly the first time around so as</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">to better
appreciate the inventive embellishments and variations that</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">follow.
Let the bebop and post bebop folks play around with chords</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">and extensions
of chords as the structure of the tune. They do it well.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">But OKOM, I
think, is based on melody.</DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif"> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">Just my
opinion. </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_default style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana,sans-serif">Ken Gates</DIV>
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