[Dixielandjazz] Roy Eldridge followed Louis Armstrong?

[Charles Suhor]

The Armstrong-Eldridge lineaged question us unprovable and unfalsifiable, if course, but my lying ears tell me that it’s pretty credible. As Robert noted, Jabbo Smith is another good candidate for a linear link, and many have nominated Henry “Red" Allen. It’s a no win/no lose argument, but as Thornton Wider said, I guess it don't do no harm. And I like to play the game.

Charlie



> On Apr 9, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
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> To the best of my memory, Eldridge said he was influenced by saxophonists more than by other trumpeters.  But human mind wants some kind of linear development, so Eldridge has been - unjustly - described as "the link" between Armstrong and Dizzy.
> Although Miles Davis apparently said "no Louis, no me," I do not see any connection.
> "Other than Armstrong" - sure; theoretically - Gillespie.  I cannot hear the connection here, either.  But then, I cannot hear anything "jazzy" in Miles Davis' playing.
> Cheers
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> On 9 April 2017 at 20:04, ROBERT R. CALDER <serapion at btinternet.com <mailto:serapion at btinternet.com>> wrote:
> In a sequence of soloists somewhere, perhaps, but as I recall Roy was more indebted to the sort of playing which developed alongside Louis A, a flowing approach related to what Jabbo Smith was up to, and Roy's initial inspiration was such as to keep him a little distant from Louis. 
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> Roy was called LITTLE JAZZ for reasons which might be obvious from seeing him in a group photograph.
> Tall he was not.  
> Did the alleged Jazz nerd say that ???????  Roy was called Little Jazz because he "followed Louis"??? 
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> The earliest recorded solos of Dizzy Gillespie certainly sound like Roy Eldridge, Humphrey Lyttelton once attempted to underline that in a broadcast.....  
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> Well, all I can say is, photograph me with a trumpet and call me Miles Davis! 
> I did once play baseball with Miles Davis, in Kentucky, but it wasn't the blues pianist Miles Davis, of whom there may be no surviving photograph though there are recordings, nor was it the trumpeter from St. Louis who stylistically derived (as John Postgate argued in an extended essay long ago) from an approach other than Armstrong.   
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> not to mention my Buddy
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