[Dixielandjazz] Spike Jones
John Knurr
manofmusic4u at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 7 16:32:32 EDT 2017
Spike Jones - Looking for an LP of Spike Jones called I believe "Music For Dancing" - Was out around 1960-62 - Straight jazz album - no City Slicker stuff. Thanks - John Knurr
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1. Re: Of melodies and such (tonypringle)
2. Re: Of melodies and such (Marek Boym)
3. John Defferary (Marek Boym)
4. Re: Of melodies and such (Charles Suhor)
5. Too Busy (Ron L'Herault)
6. Re: Of melodies and such (M J _Mike_ Logsdon)
7. Too Busy (Ron L'Herault)
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 13:05:10 -0400
From: tonypringle <tonypringle at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
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I have a memory of reading that Joe Oliver told Louis Armstrong to
always make sure you state the melody strongly and something about "if
you can't make the melody swing you can't play jazz".
I like to refer to some of the melody later in a performance - it's a
way of reminding the audience of what tune they are listening to. On a
less serious note I have heard a couple of bands through the years were
having the melody restated would help some of the musicians to remember
what tune they are playing! :-)
Cheers, Tony Pringle
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 00:45:42 +0300
From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
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With your repertoire, it hardly matters - you play so many songs hardly
anybody else does that the melodies don't sound familiar anyway.
It is not a complaint - it is a compliment; this way, you always sound
interesting!
Cheers
On 5 April 2017 at 20:05, tonypringle <tonypringle at comcast.net> wrote:
> I have a memory of reading that Joe Oliver told Louis Armstrong to always
> make sure you state the melody strongly and something about "if you can't
> make the melody swing you can't play jazz".
>
> I like to refer to some of the melody later in a performance - it's a way
> of reminding the audience of what tune they are listening to. On a less
> serious note I have heard a couple of bands through the years were having
> the melody restated would help some of the musicians to remember what tune
> they are playing! :-)
>
> Cheers, Tony Pringle
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 01:39:02 +0300
From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] John Defferary
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Underrated? You can say that again.
When it comes to British clarinet players, the first one that comes to mind
is Acker Bilk.
Then there are the jazz greats (but much less well known - Cy Laurie and
Sandy Brown. If hard pressed, one could come up with some other favourites
of mine - Wally Fawkes, Ian Christie and Ian Wheeler. But John Defferary?
Yet he couldd hold his own playing with such great New Orleans clarinet
players as Albert Nicholas and Herb Hall (as proven by GHB BCD-64, which
features Albert Nicholas with the John Defferary Jazztet and Herb Hall with
the Trevor Richards New Orleans Trio). Not a mean feat!
Cheers!
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 20:34:26 -0500
From: Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
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I had to digest several aspects of this topic before responding. Yes, most lay audiences might get bored when successive soloists stray from the melody. And as a seasoned listener, if a song is unfamiliar I like to hear a pretty straightforward chorus of melody, embellished of course to enhance the feeling, in order to anchor the experience when improvised solos unfold. But beyond that, I?m happy if the soloists don?t cite the melody at all. As I see it, in jazz improvisation the solos are in themselves melodic inventions?great to witness, especially when an imaginative player integrates blue notes, intuitively makes skillful use of rhythmic manipulation of phrases, varies their length, doesn?t run cliches or fall into repetition of ideas, etc.
Isn?t that a great part of the joy of jazz, and doesn?t it apply even when you walk into (or tune into) the middle of performance of soloists playing a tune, and you don?t even know the song in the first place? If the soloists are swinging and singing, that?s its own reward. God bless jazz!
I?m sure that most of you have sought a middle ground at times between taking lyrical flight and keeping the audience in mind. Steve Barbone has written about this often. That?s yet another kind of creativity. Ain?t we got fun?
An aside?I know that a more schooled musician than me (I?m a drummer, don?t know chords) will get much more out of, say, what a soloist is doing with harmonics as a pianist lays down chords. Too much of that, though, can bog down in analysis that saps the juice out of the experience, a flaw in much of contemporary jazz education, Im told.
That?s a plenty.
Charlie
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com <mailto:marekboym at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> With your repertoire, it hardly matters - you play so many songs hardly anybody else does that the melodies don't sound familiar anyway.
> It is not a complaint - it is a compliment; this way, you always sound interesting!
> Cheers
>
> On 5 April 2017 at 20:05, tonypringle <tonypringle at comcast.net <mailto:tonypringle at comcast.net>> wrote:
> I have a memory of reading that Joe Oliver told Louis Armstrong to always make sure you state the melody strongly and something about "if you can't make the melody swing you can't play jazz".
>
> I like to refer to some of the melody later in a performance - it's a way of reminding the audience of what tune they are listening to. On a less serious note I have heard a couple of bands through the years were having the melody restated would help some of the musicians to remember what tune they are playing! :-)
>
> Cheers, Tony Pringle
>
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:04:01 -0400
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Anyone have a lead sheet for verse and chorus of "Too Busy" in Bb? I
suspect it is normally in Eb.
Ron L
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 20:29:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Of melodies and such
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I don't have an exact quote ready (though the book is readily at hand), but this thread reminds me of Eddie's "We Called It Jazz" comment about when he first got started and his band would audition, they'd often hear the question, "After the first verse, what did you do with the melody?"
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Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:13:57 -0400
From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at verizon.net>
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I 'm sending a big "Thank You" to the three members of the list who sent
lead sheets!
Regards,
Ron L
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